Sunday, November 26, 2017

Shape of things not coming? Jk not walking your dog? ... " Der basteln mann" isn't a U boat builder? pre seaside!

Pre seaside...saturday 15h GMT

Brighton v LIVERPOOL

jk press : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvwLZ7j9R7Y  

 .. Juergen mentions about preparation and the game at Brighton, I feel that a) with Klavan questionable and Matip doubtful, had Gomez been tested at Cb OR as I proposed ; in a 3 man last line of Joe, (one of Dejan.Matip,Klavan) & Milly it could have eased the PUBLIC pressure on Lfc players .. mind you when a brighton player discusses Lfc's "weaknesses" I would show that to my players and ask pre-selection "who of you wants to prove the C*nt wrong?"  b) surely JK's "ubootroom" should provide more involement , as Klopp tends to follow the game, Buvac & co need to take more responsibility for alerting JK to tactical possibilities, they have so many on the staff, what the feck do they do>>> ??? during game time? or does JK not WANT their opinion/advices?? ... I dont want to see or hear another "excuse" .... sort it out!

extracted from mainscream media... 

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-mane-hails-liverpool-youngster

and

Brighton v Liverpool (1500)

If you are one of the faithful who spends their hard-earned following Liverpool you certainly can’t complain when it comes to entertainment value.
Jurgen Klopp might still be trying to figure out a solution to why a team that possesses arguably the most gifted attacking options in the country is not hot on the heels of Manchester City but the journey is a thrilling one.
The beauty watching Liverpool is the potential for them to blow anyone out of the water with consummate ease whilst teetering on the precipice of hitting the self-destruct button.
Stoke were eventually left trampled under the offensive stampede in midweek but in a parallel universe they could have been in trouble if Simon Mignolet had not avoided a clear red card for a rash challenge on the edge of his area.
They are odds-on for three more points on the south coast and you just know how this is going to play out as Chris Hughton's well-drilled outfit digs in on the edge of their own area in an attempt to suffocate Mo Salah, Sadio Mane and company.
That plan almost worked at Old Trafford but for Ashley Young’s shot looping over the head of Mathew Ryan via Lewis Dunk and a clean sheet since at an improving Crystal Palace suggests they won’t be overrun at home.
It will be imperative Brighton don’t get behind early if are to have any chance so support one of the most disciplined sides in the section marshalled at the back by the outstanding Dunk and Shane Duffy to still be very much in the picture at the interval "  (S.life)
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Before anything else... a word for those fans who claimed Masch " betrayed " Lfc,  the club was (and still is) controlled by the wrong people, and then "Woy" was chosen over Rafa, who had "found" Javier , playing for wham reserves! ... just like you wouldnt have know who Alonso, Mo. Sissoko ; Torres or Garcia (or perhaps Phil. C?) if it hadnt have been for Rafas work...!  http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javier-mascherano-stage-barcelona-ending-13976938

report mohamed-salah-comes-off-the-bench-to-spark-liverpoolheres-how-jurgen-klopps-men-rated-at-stoke-

stoke 0 Lfc 3 
CS> .....a bit of luck & favourable refereeing, (for a change!) ..Gomez possibly keeping the ball in play and a neat flick by debut boy Solanke (who i recent saying hadnt had enough game time)  and a smart finish by Mane, who then made the chance an hour later for Salah, off the bench to volley confidently to make it 0-2 ,,, Salah also got on the end of a long punt forward by Can and his speed caught out stoke, and finished well by Mo , to make it 0-3 , stoke claimed also that :capt: Mignolet should have got sent off for a wild tackle on Diouf (maybe Carra had told him it was El Hadj? ) ;)


Lfc go to Brighton saturday, and more of the same performance will help fans forget the points thown away in seville and v the rent blues... 

some fans STILL handing the league title to citeh (we are , still , today , as I writ, )  in November????  ... with 24 games to play & 72 points to be won or lost ....knowing that teams have fallen down many times after , " unbeatable" early performances... the fans should know better, ask me in 3 months time, and I will be inclined to tell you who is still in with a chance..

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what SHAPE are we in in? 


pre-stoke

REdNet Bootroom...


in case you missed ; 2017/11/natural-leader-and-rednet-bootroom-week  as we are testing re-launch of REdNET/Montv channel, we are in "weekly mode" but like the Lfc team, its all got a bit "serious"  ...  

so should we lighten it up,  ??? 
with Lfc jokes... like "why wouldnt JK walk your dog?"  ;  because he cant hold on to a lead?   .... or ..why isnt Klopp a U-boat builder?   ;  because he don't like making subs?

Lfc 1 (Salah)   chelski 1 (fluky a&&hole)




There is a case made ( and made also by JK in his reaction to the scum media) that Lfc getting a point at Sevilla, (remaining top of the group) and just failing to beat the current "champs" is acceptable ... health issues may be that he is rattled by their questions, often obviously ridiculous headline hunting , during this match press conference asked (again) about Can's contract or if Studge will be loaned out... yeah I was surprised he got a start, but more worried when he got hauled off at 1-0 when I fel he was doing reasonably well against a 9 man rent boys defence,,, 

TACTICAL-Selections v Science staff

Some locals bigged up chelski, but really ?  Conte backed by a billionaires money just said, pre-match , something like ; "ok , we defend at Anfield ,  give the ball to Hazard & we could steal 3 points...?"

Its claimed that the backroom staff & their in depth analysis persuaded JK to leave Firmino & Mane on the bench.. Firm. has played a lot of games this season,..

can those "techies" calculate the Adrenalin that flows through someone like the emotional Mane, who came back from fitness earlier than JK predicted ...and who was "hungry" to play ...? 

ok take the risk>??  however, IMO, Lalla & Mane,   both hungry COULD have made a difference against a supposed "tired from travel" southern softies? THIS is where titles are won & lost... 

Brendan & Juergen were chosen by USA corp (henry * & co ) as typical media front men, popular and "young" coaches... both showed their sideline excitement during goal celebrations to feed the fans "PR" ...  

Whereas I always impressed how professional Rafa was during high pressure games, winning or losing, refusing celebrations or desappointment to analyse,  you could almost see the thoght patterns " how will opponents react?"  what should our players do, I smiled at him , often shouting at players; with instructions; during their goal celebrations...  

part of modern society is to ANALyse too much?

SUBS

Well, for the umpteenth time,  TOO LATE..

JK CANNOT justify blaming the Ref,  20 minutes between the goal and the chelski (fluky, yet predictable) equalizer!  enough time,,TO MAKE CORRECT tactical decisions... he has a fecking army of advisors , assistants , (not least Jelijko Buvac?) 

Instead of the first pumping and discussions with refs (a la fergie) there could be constant exchanges with his staff, "what if"  "when should we?"...etc etc


and whatever the actual gripe Mane had with JK at the end of this game, and committed pro SHOULD be p*ssed off at having a few minutes to impact a game of this magnitude, a victory here (as on Tuesday) has a major impact... on the team, players , on support and on psychological advantages over future opponents..

Players...

Lfc Tv made some "funny" test of Ox, Solanke & Robertson to see if their disguises kept them incognito during a visit to Lfc megastore... Robbie Fowler participating in a "scouse exercise" ....  well at least 2 of these shouldnt need disguises as Lfc fans hardly ever see them

Yes, I understand how JK wants to "protect his boys"  ..giving moreNO another chance, is pushing it, and IMO, wrong, as the lad has had enough chances...  still a one footed, and often clumsy player, as a pro, is bigged up by JK/Lfc tv/echo when other players are castigated... 

JK rightly punished Sakho, didnt punish Phil, ... Brendan had his favourites,, (such as the welsh wizard , i called the hobbit!) ...Robertson must wonder who Alberto has to kill before he is dropped? I proposed that IF klopp is committed (?_ ) to playing moreNO, then push him up the wing, and play Milly in a back 3 of Gomez , (and one from 3; Matip, Lovren or Klaven)  but keep the unit consistent 3 ...  

 play Trent &/or Moreno as occasional wing-backs , because neither look like "natural defenders" to me..

stop rotating goalies now, because the next round is against teams where every mistake is punished,  difficult to blame Mign. for the goal yesterday, and apart from that he made a couple of good saves, dealt with crosses & distributed quicker... I would have given Ward time,  but now , another change is inadvisable....

With Lalla fit, and many games to play , I would have Hendo OR Grujic with Wijn, in front of the defence...

Can on Bench

the "attacking/midfield"  ;  Lalla ; Mane, Firm (Studge replacing when appropriate) & Salah almost always on the shoulders of the opposing defence .  wide in space ... 



Phil would be rested  half the games because he does not seem to be able to play his best through a busy period...  

Ox on bench , occasionally replacing Salah

1st TEaM @ Stoke? (my choice)

             Mign.
Gomez Lovren Milly
       Hendo Wijn.
Mane    Lalla       Phil ( or,,,,?)
                   Firm 
                            Salah    

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Monday, November 20, 2017

Natural leader? and REdNET bootroom week review 3-3- & preview...v chelski

in case you (missed it?) 2017/11/relaunch-of-rednet-channel-montv.html
Natural LEADER?
REdNeT and Chris posted in E.L(s)S.U.N: "Balkan REDS" (Union of Reds Supporters) Global.
Liverpool v chelsk

Anfield saturday evening 25th November

It remains to be seen how the Reds react to that demoralising 2nd half @ Sevilla, 
(JK ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9aCVRxOEZM )
enough has been said (and our comments below)....

Some Lfc fans are expecting MO-vember to continue, and see our comments below, need to take the pressure of him to break records, and all players in the selected team will have to be at their best, if a moral-boosting win & 3 points against a club hated just slightly less than the mancs...

I really hope that Lalla can start saturday and meld the team into a compact unit that we know , when at its best can beat anyone,  I would still like to see Ward given time, & Grujic, but you know i have never chosen moreNO in any of my selections in 2 seasons....

JK may choose to switch Trent back into RB, however I would keep the more mature & physical Gomez, alongside Lovren , and Milly in  a back 3 ,  Hendo & Wijn in front of them, with Lalla, Phil & Mane linking midfield & supporting  Firm & Salah, which should cause chelski problems..  3-2-3-1-1 with Salah pushed tight on the blues last man ... which would also keep the visitors stretched... 

If possible , and no new injuries, Grujic, (for H) Studge (for Firm) and Ox for Mane, on 60 mins if appropriate (yeah, tactics require spontaneous assesment, and my worry is JK & his staff react too slowly to opportunities or crisis!)

come on, make my saturday night a GOOD one, with a confident win over the (actual) blue scum...!









   
REdNeT
November 19 at 12:34pm
https://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/45841/commentary
Sevilla v Liverpool - Commentary - Football - Sporting Life


Arrogance Pre collapse at Sevilla ? 

looking at the picture of Firm, scoring the 3rd for 0-3 at Seville , made me think, "showing off" is not advisable with half - the game to play,  didnt JK and the boys learn that much from the final in Basel?

I am sure , coasting , scoring frequently and in an attack boasting Mane, Phil, Salah & Firm,  these (young) men can get carried away with themselves, but what does Jk & Buvac do at half-time, ??? 
does NOT look so funny after 3-3- does it?

this is a new aspect of modern Lfc, Brent & JK ...

 the old "bootroom team" (the likes of Joe Fagan or Ronnie Moran) would have kicked Firm's Backside and  said, "the best way to show off, is to score another 3 in the 2nd half,  (AC Milan "celebrated" at the Istanbul H-T in 05) ...

CS> I have called for Milly at LB, from day one,, not only because however much moreNO improved, he is NOT a defender, Milly brings some needed maturity and stability to a young team, 

and the Sevilla Manager must have used that knowledge and the provocative arrogance of the Lfc players to stir his team into 2nd half action... 

JK seemed confused about why his team , again, conceded a game, he needs to look in the mirror,  Juergen , you let a "captain" leave (Lucas) you chose Mignolet as your "leader" at wham...  examine yourself, and your player relations, and you can still make this team into champions...

and AVOID another "false dawn"... ?

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REdNET BOOTroom opinions & more...

leave Salah alone


"reminds me of Dalglish"  ..."another michael owen"  ..." Just like Suarez"  ....14 goals already with only a 3rd of the season gone, Mo SALAH is a "surprise"  however, still, far from world class... his right foot suffers from "moreno disease"  and I find it remarkable that pro-footballers can be so one-footed when they have so much time during the week to improve their weaknesses...

Other teams will  now watch him, and prepare, AND the praise can get inside a players head, and now , again, we will find out the quality of Jk,  Jelijko & staffs ability to deal with players pressure...

in the meantime, Lfc fans, (& plastic pundits in the echo or elsewhere on Lfctv or "redmen" ) calm down, dont big him up..,  leave Salah alone...

NATURAL LEADER??


Hendo, like Lucas is under-rated, however, why I would have always chosen (when fit) Lucas in front of or within the defensive unit, is because a) maturity, b) leadership mentality and c) verbal organisation... Stevie used to mostly lead by example.. but I was IMPRESSED at the public outburst 3 years ago after beating citeh, although Lfc didnt finish the season off....

(this also developed from a TAW comment section with "Amy");-


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Yeah , I'll bite...
of course there are those, in or outside of football who naturally take charge, often simply by instinct!

I was laughing when I saw Mign. lead out the team, but not a "funny", but a bitter ironic laugh, being a critic of the current Lfc losing its "Liverpool way" I had complained when Milly was appointed, as I believed, then, that a player should have been grounded in a club a while before being given the "honour" ..

I think Jk is an adequate coach, but its a part of his cavalier "gung ho" mentality to abandon care.. doesnt seem to realise how important certain things are, for some of the Reds Supporters... like comparing Fergie with John Lennon..!
for me a goalkeeper should not be captain , ideally a CB or midfielder ..who has responsibility , vision and voice should have the role...
having said that, is a sad reflection of the players mentality hwne I looked at the other (outfield) players and thought, who else?.... bit sad really...

p.s sure I'v been "spoiled" (from Emlyn, through Souness, to Stevie...)

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ChRiS

see also ;
https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/.../simon-mignolet.../...
Simon Mignolet, Jürgen Klopp And Question Marks Over Liverpool's…
theanfieldwrap.com

ChriS
Shanks ; a NATURAL leader,,,
Group Admin:-
TAW deleted my reply to Amy, (quoting Alexander, Napoleon, & Adolf, as examples of "NOT TALL men , taking charge, can be caused by ego, instinct, or other emotion or feeling of "responsibility" perhaps JK has made the biggest mistake of a "system" which neutralizes the individuals ability to take over in time , especially of opportunity or emergency ..

ChriS
Group Admin
of course there are "natural leaders" I was the shyest in my class at school. however I have lked a number of teams, projects & initiatives in various aspects of pro & private life.. and I know when I meet one, forget the "alpha" tag... TAW deleted my reply to Amy, (quoting Alexander, Napoleon, & Adolf, as examples of "NOT TALL men , taking charge, can be caused by ego, instinct, or other emotion or feeling of "responsibility" perhaps JK has made the biggest mistake of a "system" which neutralizes the individuals ability to take over in time , especially of opportunity or emergency ..

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Tony Evans About to go on @5liveSport to talk about @kennethdalglish from 7.30-8.30

@RedAlieNeT i'd like to get J Henry against a wall and ask him to justify the sacking after winning the only trophy of the decade & a final for Lfc in season (after "vote of confidence" ? #ameriCANTS 




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November 9 at 12:13pm
S.o.S didnt back the injunction 5 years ago, due to fans not understanding, think they do, now??
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Chris   12:40pm Nov 14
reminder ; REdNeT
Published by Chris Smith-Mypod · November 10 at 2:46pm

...A n INVITATION to JOIN all Reds & Lfc SUPPORTER groups on social media who want progressive improvement in "our club"

slogan "we are the club" (still!)

Initiative to honour Shanks & bring our dream & hope into one ..Campaign..

I am anti-Henry & co & his billionaire backers , whilst I am not a kloppite, I LIKE JUERGEN, he has good qualities as a coach, he is an employee of theirs, as such is restricted.

we could spend all our time repeating the things we know are wrong @ Lfc..

REdNET is a small publishing group with its own agenda, I/we do not intend to lead you..however.... we wish to recall the words of Shanks and his version of INTELLIGENT socialism...

*we will NOT buy Lfc products, not pay the high price for tickets..

*WE ASK you & your members NOT to "insult" players , or use foul language about the team, IF we are to have a better club, then JUSTIFY your claim as a future member/supporting sharholder of the future LIVERPOOL club by dignity and positivity, a la Shanks...

*CONSTRUCTIVE criticism of players, friendly debate of formations and your own player preferences, like or dislike...is , of course, your freedom of speech...

*SUPPORT whoever selected to wear the Red shirt...

*Defend the club against its rivals (but not their "USAcorp" boardroom)

*WATCH & support grass roots/youth footy where you live! please, when possible.

and CONSIDER what structure you would like to see in the management on/off the field at "our club" ; because,,,,,

you.....and WE ARE THE CLUB*

sincerely
ChriS SMITH

*there are over 30 million of us on the net, lets show "them" we mean to APPLY our people power take it back from the "infestors"....?




   
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Elaine
November 16 at 2:22pm

Now there's a shock and with the price freeze coming off this season, prices are only going one way .

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November 14 at 4:16pm
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Christopher Richard Smith
November 19 at 9:55am

Thanks to all at Liverpool FC Supporters Dutch Branch for the kind cash donation. Also to Print Cons...



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Chris Smith-Mypod
November 18 at 7:02pm
Lfc 3-0 soton,
solid & impressive all round team performance , compact, and hardly needed a GK! a hard working soton contained by teamwork and without hitting high gear Lfc disposed of the visitors , could have been more... good sound result, mature, as it should be!
... Lfc 3-0 soton,
solid & impressive all round team performance , compact, and hardly needed a GK...

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Christopher Richard Smith
November 18 at 1:05pm
if all fit , my choice... ideally Ward instead of Mign.. (but...)
Gomez, Matip, Lovren, Milly,
Hendo, Lalla, Wijn, Mane,
Firm,
Salah..

Phil on bench (!) ... Studge & Phile on @ 60 mins for Firm & Lalla, and Grujic for Hendo... :)

englands national side plays a more defensive structure, than Lfc , who also play 3 at the back , anyway (because moreNO is a left winger! ) :) I would like to see Joe at CB, but only if a solid RB is selected at the time, and Milly at LB for stability ..
if all fit , my choice... ideally Ward instead of Mign.. (but...)
Gomez, Matip, Lovren, Milly,
H....... and so on...
I am looking for someone who converted his LP.....



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ChriS
November 19 at 10:03am
sorry Carra, but my dear departed granny could win trophies with Barca, bayern & citeh... when he takes over a mid-table team (Like Rafa did at Valencia & Lfc) and win trophies is when I will applaud him..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/17/master-pep-guardiola-peak-powers-should-appreciate/

i find it amusing, although they may do it, the ASSumption that champions already decided, havent fans learnt anything, so many times early leaders have fallen, Spurs were hailed 2 weeks ago & now fans & "experts" writing them off.... footy is unpredictable, still! :)


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ChriS
November 17 at 4:31pm
Tony Evans About to go on @5liveSport to talk about @kennethdalglish from 7.30-8.30

@RedAlieNeT>    i'd like to get J Henry against a wall and ask him to justify the sacking after winning the only trophy of the decade & a final for Lfc in season (after "vote of confidence" ? #ameriCANTS
Tony Evans About to go on @5liveSport to talk about @kennethdalglish from 7.30-8.30

@RedAlieNeT i'd...



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