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Friday, February 22, 2013

OPEN LETTER to the UNion; called "Spirit of Shankly"

https://www.facebook.com/FenwayWeComeNotToPay 

NOTE ; 
http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2013/02/yankers-desperate-as-their-tit-anic.html

OPEN LETTER to the UNion; called "Spirit of Shankly"

"to whom it may concern"

ChriS SmiTH> please check this, take your time, 

consider it, but please note this is MY feeling about "SoS"
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My fellow Reds Supporter, Sean (you tube/Fb site "Fenway, we come not to PAY") invited me to pen this open letter.

I warned him that I would "pull no punches", because I am perhaps HARDER on those I expect the most from.

I grew up in a socialist family, and whilst my experiences have taken me into many experiences,worldwide, the core ethics of Socialism remain with me, and especially those stated on the "Spirit of Shankly" website

"The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It's the way I see football, the way I see life." Bill Shankly


F S G embody the EXACT OPPOSITE of these ideals!!

Which is why so many of us are disgusted by the Failure of the UNION to confront John Henry; "Chairman" Tom Werner, and their F S G employees; Namely Ian Ayre!

why have "F S G" been given such an "easy ride" by the UNION?

You use the great BILL SHANKLY's name, yet BILL would surely be the first challenging the "infestors" and leading protests. What are F S G "Good for"?
Information from USA confirms that their financial empire is in freefall - so their "business acumen" is questionable.


- The "warrior promotion" is a joke.....
- they have no knowledge of footy (it is not "soccer")
- They are "absent" & without experience of running a UK business like Lfc. We dont want to be their "F(r)ANchise".
- no knowledge or experience of managing a global entity the size of LIVERPOOL (non american)
- no true understanding of our culture & passions
(the manner of Kenny's removal, the snubbing of Hillsborough memorial)
- they are cash poor (too many "cash promotions" are noted, that we don't see benefit of?)
- & failed to recognise Steve Clarke's value, (...ignoring the best manager we had in 20 years ; Rafa; who we love & who arguably deserved to complete the contract cut short by G & H)
- signed "average" Borini (due to "connections" with the Italian club)
- sanctioned BR bringing his favourite (the "average") Joe Allen

- their man "Chang" threatened fans!!
- Other "questionable dealings" ....Dempsey, Carroll, Ince, etc

Whilst, I tend to favour the youth policy installed by Rafa with Kenny and Rudolfo, the impression that we are now a "selling club" is an opinion widely spread.


The Supporters worldwide wont accept this situation, and "campaigns" are already progressing that reflect the opposition we had against "G & H". The apparent backing of former USA president Bush's campaign and the continuation of business relations with "standards corrupted" just remind us that these are not people that WE want in OUR CLUB.

We are the best supporters in the World, we built this club, made it famous Worldwide, invest our energy, passion and much of our income. People I meet all around the globe, even those who arent fans, know our reputation.

G & H damaged that and now F S G continue ruining OUR CLUB.

Many of us joined "SoS" in the belief you truly represent local & global supporters.

WE are the CLUB; WE are LIVERPOOL, but what are you.."Spirit of Shankly"...doing?


CS
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contact  for MonTV  http://www.anfieldfm.com/news/

thatchers funeral.. as see your "wall picture" it reminds me of this,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRVY1jGf7Co


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/video/features/13977-anfield-s-best-euro-nights

Team; Pepe, Glen, Carra, dAGGER, Jose, Lucas, Hendo, Allen, Stevie, Downing, LUIS..
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/valiant-reds-fall-on-away-goals


REdNET> Marie , whats Allen doing! (full stop!) ... hes BR's boy!
       Marie Buckley >Goal or not, he's a lightweight and too small, ineffective!
       REdNeT > agreed selection error, despite his goal from 1/2 metre, tactical error, replacing Hendo with Shelvey, it seemed to take our "momentum" away makign 2 subs at that time.. and I would have put raheem on earlier than with 5 mins to go..     great support tonight, thats how it was & should be , every game! and if all our players showed the same commitment as Luis we would win everything..


GREdS
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CS>(SEan) keep on with the Vids... mind u i think its "unfair" using Katie,..like a trump card :) ... really think u are lucky to have a good woman, so rare these days.... and its clear U appreciate her... as u know I dont always agree with u, but i respect your passion.. do u want me to prepare a letter to SoS, (if I write it there will be no "punches pulled")
you know ! :) 

...based on the following items v F S G ..

we should defend our club, however we have enemies in our own camp .. F S G .. so, what are F S G good for?
- their financial empire is in freefall - so their "business acumen" is in doubt
- The "warrior promotion" is a joke.....
- they have no knowledge of footy
- no experience of running a UK business
- no knowledge of managing a global entity (non american)
- no understanding of our culture (the manner of Kenny's removal, the snubbing of Hillsborough memorial)
- they are cash poor (too many cash "promotions, noted)
- failed to recognise Steve Clarke's value, and ...
(for me ignoring the best manager we had in 20 years ; Rafa who deserved to complete the contract cut short by G & H)
- signed Borini (due to "connections" with the Italian club) ..sanctioned BR bringing his favourite, Joe Allen but ....

and they tricked some good people into thinking they are "saviours" (SoS amongst them...)
antichrismith.blogspot.com/2013/02/dont-complain-campaign.html

CS> Seans F-way vids not surprised that these aRE being blocked too. (CS)

The Midfield of Stevie, Henderson & Lucas works well, we tend to leak goals when BR changes it and plays his boy Allen which then does make us "lightweight" , the failing has been in team cohesion too, and changing defence which is a weakness of BR's lack of experience...we are playing the price of F S G's lacl of interest or knowledge in our club and employing a "manager" who is really only a "coach" still learning his trade , .. F S G ignoring Rafa, or retaining Kenny as Footy director with Steve Clarke as coach is further evidence that F S G are wrong for our club,... all the rest going on at Lfc is "small talk " in comparison to this basic TRUTH!
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/02/balancing-the-liverpool-midfield/

Marie Buckley, > People get real...........who gives a fiddlers how Arse and Arsenal do.........why is it bothering LFC fans how Arsenal are playing, whether they win or loose or whether or not Wenger is going to be sacked...............worry about your own club and team.... if LFC dont get a result on Thursday night it will be a defining stage in the season.......

Tony Benson I thinks its to with the fact that Arsenal fans gloat because Liverpool are not in the champs Lg..I understand what you are saying but no harm to give back a bit of banter to these Gunners that think for some reason they have the right to laff or mock Liverpool..
33 minutes ago · Like · 4

Terry White spot on marie ...it really does make me wonder sometimes if some of our lot follow LFC for the right reasons...did they just jump on the bandwagon that was lfc a few years back or so...now we are a struggling club they take their frustrations out on more successful clubs of today like the mancs and the london clubs, Tony Benson other clubs fans have every right to gloat about us its only what we deserve if not more, our fans gloating is sheer jealousy of where the likes of the gunners are ...i wish it was us who were in the C/L as fans we need to take it on the chin & just hope our glory days return soon

Eoghan O'toole > Well said Marie Buckley

 
Tony Benson > As i said, i understand that...But i'm also saying there's nothing wrong with a bit of banter.What good for the goose an all that...From what you are saying,fans of other clubs can give stick and Liverpool fans should accept it..I don't think so.
16 minutes ago · Like

Chris  Ursun > Tony, agree we should defend our club, however we have enemies in our own camp .. F S G .. what are F S G good for?
- their financial empire is in freefall - so their "business acumen" is in doubt
- The "warrior promotion" is a joke.....
- they have no knowledge of footy
- no experience of running a UK business
- no knowledge of managing a global entity (non american)
- no understanding of our culture (the manner of Kenny's removal, the snubbing of Hillsborough memorial)
- they are cash poor (too many cash "promotions, noted)
- failed to recognise Steve Clarke's value, and ...
(for me ignoring the best manager we had in 20 years ; Rafa who deserved to complete the contract cut short by G & H)
- signed Borini (due to "connections" with the Italian club) ..sanctioned BR bringing his favourite, Joe Allen but ....

so YES lets have a go at the mancs, cockneys and anyone...but lets get our priorities right, get our own house..in order???
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Stevie wonder ; you haven't done a thing..?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjs_sHwMj-0

Mi treba da branimo naš klub , ali mi imamo neprijatelje u našem kampu .. P S G .. šta su P S G dobro?
- Njihova finansijska imperija je u slobodnom padu - tako da je njihova " poslovna sposobnost " je u nedoumici
-" Ratnik promocija " ješala .....
- Oni nemaju saznanja o fudbalu
- Nema iskustvo vodenja poslovanja u evropi
- Nikakvo znanje upravljanja globalnom entitet (ne americki )
- Nema razumevanje naše kulture (nacin uklanjanja Keni je , isnubbing od Hillsborough spomen , itd itd)




- Oni su siromašni gotovine ( previše gotovine promocije, navedeno)
- Nisu uspeli da prepoznaju Steve Klarkom je vrednost, i ...
... za mene ignorisanje najbolji menadžer smo imali u poslednjih 20 godina , Rafa (koji je zaslužio da završi 10 dvogodišnji ugovor , prekinut G & H )
- Potpisan Borini ( zbog " veze" sa italijanskom klubu ) .. sankcionisan BR dovodec´i svoj favorit, Džo Alen ali ....


Tako da hajde da se ide na mancs , cockneis i svako ... ali omoguc´ava dobiti pravu naše prioritete , dobiti sopstvenu kuc´u .. kako ?  

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ChriS SmiTH > really hope to see you in the Balkans this year??

Evita T>I don't know yet, I wish I would be there! nice day to u Chris:)

CS> Well if u can afford the travel, the rest will cost "nothing" as i would like u to be guest!



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 OTHER items * "humour" 


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(from an Irish RED!!

  RACISM?

Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to scream 'racism' these days.

A customer asked, "In what aisle could I find the Irish sausage?"

The assistant asks, "Are you Irish?"

The guy, clearly offended, says, "Yes I am. But let me ask you something. If I had asked for Italian sausage, would you ask me if I was Italian?

Or if I had asked for German Bratwurst, would you ask me if I was German?

Or if I asked for a kosher hot dog would you ask me if I was Jewish?
 

Or if I had asked for a Taco, would you ask if I was Mexican?

Or if I asked for Polish sausage, would you ask if I was Polish?"

The assistant says, "No, I probably wouldn't."

The guy says, "Well then, just because I asked for Irish sausage, why did you ask me if I'm Irish?"

The assistant replied, "Because you're in Halfords."



Kids Need to Play OUTSIDE , again
a poem for "today" .. "y-our way?"

cant YOu find a way
to exist without selling y-our soul?
is money or power the only reason
that you are as blind as a mole?

cant you see what life should be?
caring for the kids, for you, for me?
I try not to hate your ignorance
& ruin this planet with your selfish stance

dont make me angry with you
that brings nothing but pain
make this a better day.
and tomorrow, in every way, a gain

dont be a whore for the system
please value your soul
make caring a reason to live
make honesty more than a goal

I have lost too many
so i hold on to the few
and hope you all learn a better way

look in the mirror, long & hard, find a better you..
CS13220



CSerS

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=================================================Subject: CS-R2 Re: CS 13221 (Ue Bmm?)

[do not respond directly to this email, use the link]

I dont want to go into the "thread" again but I feel less inclined now to open my birthday party to people I dont know. and there are people who probably will attend that I honestly wouldnt go out of my way to "please" in MNE, but as the UE event is gonna be open to "anyone" that could be combined with BMM , if u/they want to add it as "option" ?

artu wrote:

>Heya!
>Milano was fun. too many people at the party, but still fun.
>Ye, I've noticed your meeting for the UE weekend and have subscribed as maybe. If I'll be here that weekend, I'd definitely join.
>As for the BMM, is your offer still valid meaning shall we have it as an option when I set up the poll? I got lost in the thread while I was in MI.
>Cheers.
>*v*

CS> HiY Vesna,
hope u enjoyed Milano.
I did mention that I am supporting an event in UE,
I decided not to react any more to the BMM thread unless someone insults me directly again..
>>but this is the link (as I did notice u suggested UR as an alternative location for this years spring BMM)
cuvaj se!
ChRiS 

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MonTV

Chris East-west Invest Ursun> Zdravo Dusica, I am sure u dont understand me, but as it took almost 2 years for us to have any meaningful conversation, I have to persue the situation or "not" I am confident of success if my own energy and enthusiasm is only even partially matched.. i have wasted too much time with wrong ppl , but they taught me not to waste any more..this is my "organisational identity" and if u realyl want o "make a difference, lets get together in the next days, i am sure the Kotor project wont interfere with it, and in fact IMO these things should be integrated, so many times I have seen WASTED energy by people who have good causes but WONT share resources or co-operate,,,its easy for me, I have done it all, but its also a curse. as i know too much :0 ... (yes of course I find you very attractive, they put me in mans body on this mad planet...but thats "another story" ..) i am honest! ... ChRiS

http://www.youtube.com/user/MultiMonTV ...

campaigning REdNET v F S G
the creative academy for support and self-supporting life-style ,
- body, mind & SPIRIT..
monty-logic-club.org ...doing it for the kids
confronting and waking up the people..
N.E.P.A.K. for parents and kids in pain...

Only once this season in the Premier League have Liverpool come from behind to win, while when conceding the first goal (which you can say they have essentially already done here) they are W1 D5 L9.
..totally off subject but.. WTF are barca wearing, looks like their sponsors are an ice cream manufacturer, i keep wanting to adjust the colour on my Tv... wouldnt be surprised if the yankers make it our change strip (if they are still around come summer) ..we wouldnt need floodlights at Anfield in that kit... LMAO!

 http://cser5.blogspot.com

 



Friday, February 8, 2013

Yankers Desperate as their "TiT-anic" sinks REdNET v F S G ..cont..

Yankers are Desperate !
as their "TiT-anic" sinks
"REdbEL-Lions"
(Censored)
& REdNeT v F S G ..continues.....towards..."sudbina"

I recommend that you Read ; 

http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2013/02/campaign-dont-complain-we-are-club.html
and 
http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2013/01/2-0-1-3-resolutions-rednet-v-f-s-g.html

media CENSORSHIP

This was "Banned" ... for exposing the Truth,...
http://youtu.be/7FSvh0J1MgA
REdbEL-LionnSnm1b ; http://youtu.be/N91nqZHkyKw

as was ;  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKBH4_bVKI&feature=youtu.be 
& this ; REdbEL-LionnSnm1b ; http://youtu.be/N91nqZHkyKw

Insults

Our friends at "we come not to PAY" are constantly insulted ; links are blocked, videos obstructed, as with the USA political/global police-miliarial solution for all those dare question their "new order".. quantanamo, baghdad invasion, "patriot act" destruction of civil/human rights that they "market" but rarely apply..

 the F S G clones and "SOCCER-sheeple" we call "fannies" were our out in force..attacking our FB group. obviously the TRUTH is hurting them..

Financial Myth


IF the F S G clones "logic" demands that we have financially strong "owners" then the MYTH that Henry & co are "sound" is SUNK, like the TITanic as his investments lost 50% in recent years... 

 Neither do we NEED chevvy advertising on you Tube interviews with players

nor pathetic "warrior" voice-overs that  push a slogan which contradicts our Kopite chant   "Play FOOTBALL"..

...in finance, and in players and backroom staff etc.. and letting Ince go and trying to buy him back.. Andy let go with out forward cover, etc, buying another young player when we already have so many good ones...and there is no evidence that they transferred CASH into our club when the first Yankers were "ejected"..is there??

 F S G used Anfield and Melwood as collatreal, even G & H didnt do that!!..they regularly send our team out to play away in the "change kit" despite there being no colour clash (why didnt we play in REd @ Norwich etc?) they have sucked in OUR Cash from early t(r)icket sales and marketing of new klits,, there is NO evidence of NET investment by F S G..so what >>>>??????????


...please are they good for?? NOTHING! they have no understanding of our culture or our club or the game..Ayre is their poodle in the office and the "business acuimen" of Henry is a myth..(his empire losing about 50% of its investments recently) !!! (CS)

its a fraud...clever."PRopaganda" .but still a fraud...and S o S should have used the funds WE invested in the supporters Union to stop a repeat of the exploitation that G & H attempted..with a legal injunction to protect our club ..the club should belong to Liverpool community and global supporters.. (CS) its pathetic to think that with 7 million "custiomers" worldwide that we cant make a profit..net... without some yankers involved!

    "bankers" and hedge funds will be exposed for playing with "virtual money" they are USELESS to us.... WE ARE the club and WE could raise 200-300 million from global support, celebs and ex players... apart from which..F S G are THE problem, , betraying Kenny, (which alone makes them unTRUSTworthy as custodians), ignoring Rafa, both these men are of massive value to our club, having made the progress with the youth players which "buck" is benefiing from.(between them Rafa and Kenny developed 25 international standard youth players ..for the club to "use" (Rafa brought Kenny back and Rudolfo in)

    ...BR is a novice using OUR club for HIS education & "CV", he has won nothing, and whilst the footy may be "pretty" we still havent beaten a club in the top half!! progress?..decent coach , but as a man, not big enough "winner" to be manager OF LIVERPOOL..

    Henry also snubbed the Hillsborough memorial and backed Bush's campaign,

    ..WE members @ Global REdS) Do NOT want such people associated with LFC.. thats more important than what Rodgers does.

    .. Kenny got us a our first trophy in 6 years, and 2 cup finals and there's no reason to say we wouldn't have been challenging this season, instead F S G took us back to another "re-building" cost

    ...in finance, and in players and backroom staff etc.. and letting Ince go and trying to buy him back.. Andy let go with out forward cover, etc, buying another young player when we already have so many good ones...and there is no evidence that they transferred CASH into our club when the first Yankers were "ejected"..is there??

    F S G used Anfield and Melwood as collatreal, even G & H didnt do that!!..they regularly send our team out to play away in the "change kit" despite there being no colour clash (why didnt we play in REd @ Norwich etc?) they have sucked in OUR Cash from early tricket sales and marketing of new klits,, there is NO evidence of NET investment by F S G..so what

    ...please are they good for?? NOTHING! they have no understanding of our culture or our club or the game..Ayre is their poodle in the office and the "business acumen" of Henry is a myth..(his empire losing about 50% of its investments recently) !!! (CS)

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mass-debating 
(with F S G Clones and "Fannies")


goodness.  we have accumulated a number of "cupid stunts" , yanker (F S G ) clones and "fannies" in recent years, it is embarassing, 


..please engage brain before opening you big mouths or writing banal comments on the WWW... PLEASE!

but ..anyway..

dont complain campaign!

..join the REdvolution.. Liverpool people have to take back the city and OUR CLUB too!

Sean> ..http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_timedtext?video_referrer=watch&video_id=7FSvh0J1MgA&feature=mhsn
Are you willing to take the risk?
www.youtube.com

Chris> Ursun> the risk has been taken, we cant keep dwelling on the errors made by the directors, from Moores through Parry , Hicks Purslow Broughton and Ayre..the fans are as much to blame for allowing this mess.. it s the equivalent of playing fiddle on the top deck as the Titanic sinks...dont complain CAMPAIGN..

F-way>. We Come Not To Pay>  fair enough point to make tho chris. we dont wanna be making the same mistake again. seanoc

Chris >  Ursun >  the damage is already done, its about building a "Life boat" sean, otherwise the club as we knew it, wont exist at all..!
    REdbEL-LionnSnm1b ; http://youtu.be/N91nqZHkyKw

probably cut & censored...after almost 24 hrs of trying to get it
uploaded, will try again at weekend..http://youtu.be/7FSvh0J1MgA

(when the C1A have a day off! ha ha)

Mark> 
----
 As Kevin Rowland said "Let's get this straight from the start". I don't agree with the aims of this group, but I am open for discussion and debate. So I'll make a start. If you get your way and FSG sell thier interest in Liverpool Football Club, who do you think (or want) to come in and buy us, given we are in a global recession and that Financial Fair Play rules now mean the sugar daddy owner days are now over?..

https://www.facebook.com/FenwayWeComeNotToPay>
CS>  lets get this "straight" , Mark, YOU havent bothered to read postings in this group which show the way forward in a global recession where "bankers" and hedge funds will be exposed for playing with "virtual money" they are USELESS to us.... WE ARE the CLUB..(etc)
 
... its a fraud...clever."PRopaganda" .but still a fraud...and S o S should have used the funds WE invested in the supporters Union to stop a repeat of the exploitation that G & H attempted..with a legal injunction to protect our club ..the club should belong to Liverpool community and global supporters.. (CS) its pathetic to think that with 7 million "custiomers" worldwide that we cant make a profit..net... without some yankers involved!

Mark Shaw> Ok, first of all I used the Kevin Rowland quote to keep the mood light, that obviously failed as your response seems to have a quite aggressive tone, but anyway...I'm under no illusions about FSG, they have made mistakes, some that I think important you haven't mentioned, for example the delay in the decision and new stadium/ refurbishment of Anfield work should have started a long time ago. Some of the other things you mention are, I'm sorry to say, pie in the sky. Liverpool Football Club is now and has always been a business and whilst I agree a supporters owned club would be fabulous it isn't going to happen to any club in the premiership any time soon. King Kenny getting sacked was a sad day, but let's be honest it came as no suprise to anyone. We were playing some pretty awfull football at the time, even the two cup finals were not pleasent viewing. 

As for FSG ignoring Rafa, not everyone wanted him back, myself included, sorry but, I don't like defensively minded football, which was the way we played under him as well as Houllier. A couple of other points, letting Ince go, every team makes mistakes, no one has a crystal ball, anyone who says they get it right all the time is a liar. I agree we should of kept Carroll on the books till we had a replacement, but he's not a "Liverppol" player in truth is he? John Henry snubbing the memorial he didn't attend that's true, but you would have to be very sensitive to take offense at that. As for him backing bush's campaign, I hate to admit it but we have tory mp's and even cabinet ministers who are LFC fans, socialism isn't a prerequisite to be a fan (it should be though!). Finally, most teams play in the away kit when they aren't at home, we do and have for years, its all about selling shirts. Not everything under FSG is bad, we have a good manager who has his head screwed on, a young team who are going to get better and better, and owners who have put us in a sound position to face the new FFP rules. I hope you can start see some light soon as you seem to be in a pretty dark and negative place.
 
F-way. We Come Not To Pay > Sean> isn't liverpool in a pretty dark and negative place? (seanoc)
 
Mark Shaw>  No mate it's really not. Far more positives than negatives. Just a personal note try and use a capital letter when you refer to Liverpool please, it's a sign of respect for both the club and city, cheers.

F-way. We Come Not To Pay >
CS> Mark,you are swallowing the illusiion that FSG are "sound" they are bankrupt...it was myself who responded above not Sean (CS) if u mention respect and then just "file away" the treatment of Kenny etc ..and cover up the obvious , that BR is F S G's man... that alone is reason to get them out, to give him a contract and remove him IN that way, makes them untrustworthy, u can attempt to play down all the stuff mentioned but collectively they are simply wrong.. if we dont hold on to the values, including those that kept us fighting for Justice the last 23 years, and then say we would have to be "sensitive"

...??? and WE have always been "different" the club is US, not a busines, however IF we ran it it would be better managed than it ever was off the field.. there were always problems, but the last 5 years, and our current dubious association with RBS (corrupt) Standard chartered (corrupt) chevvy !!! and the pathetic "warrior" advertising campaign are not us either, or is this a standard now, that if footy is a business it doesnt matter if we go in league with the devil.. let us lead not follw the masses.. Shanks version of socialism is the intelligent future not only of our club but of society..or we will go down with the rest of the systems "unsinkable titanic".. ! 
Rodgers is a decent coach , but hes (if lucky) 10 years away from being anything as good as Rafa!!  
(CS)

Mark Shaw> I fail to see why the appointment of Brendan Rodgers is reason to campaign against FSG. Just because you don't think he's a big enough name to manage LFC? I really think you will be eating your words in a season or two. As for the dealings with RBS and Standard Chartered, if everybody who dealt with them had to sell their businesess the whole world would be for sale. And so to Warrior, to tell the truth I couldn't give a toss who makes our shirts as long as it's not nike, who employ children a slave labour rates, but I think your in a minority on that one as most fans I've spoken too like the new shirts A LOT! I know I'm not going to change anyone minds here, but as all I've had from you is negatives, I'd like to challange you to tell me a positive about LFC in the past couple of years. As pointed out in the earlier post I know FSG have made mistakes and I'll point them out, can you point out something good? your turn!

Sean>  Mark, If u wanna correct my grammar, to try and validate your point, it's not gonna work. Seanoc

Mark Shaw > Not trying to validate anything. Just use a capital L when you write Liverpool. Don't be so sensitive.

F-way. We Come Not To Pay> Marie>
 The Financial Fair Play thing is being used by FSG as an excuse to cover their asses..........it suits them down to the ground to play on this........all the excuses they needed!!mb

CS >  Mark, if u cant deal with al the "negatives" and are in denial of the truth, just like when everyone used to say we were too "defensive" about Hillsborough,shame on u. its never worried me to be in a minority..but its just not true...in the world, there are 7 million or more "registered fans" and its only a few who disagree with us, u see the rest of the world dont swallow the american BS like the english have.. Shanks had vision for our club, but no-one off the field since has, I see it as positive to stand up and tell the truth, in fact when "power" is corrupted its a duty.. the GOOD is... that WE WOULD manage the club better than some inflated accountants who only know how to cut

 ..I dealt with yankers in business at all levels... and the business world has been disected by accountants and speculative "hedge funds" which destroy society the NEGATIVITY is that so many "fannies" swallowed the NESV bull sh*te and havent got the courage to admit they got fooled twice .. apathy rules a lot of opinoions and the yankers PRopaganda certainly took in SoS and a lot as "white kinights".. u really think warrior are any different.. WE should be selling LIVERPOOL shirts and LIVERPOOL brands not letting warrior build their business on our backs.. or front

.. a POSITIVE.. is also THE KIDS ; the depth of quality youth, (that BR is benefiting from) coming through now... and thanks to Rafa, who brought in Rudolfo, and brought back Kenny, who until bruatlly removed by Henry represnted our club ..anyone who puts down Kenny is NEGATIVE.. the man who went to the funerals of the 96, who put the club first, and like Rafa is tied to us and the community...unlike BR, who is not. ..how can i say anything good about FSG , people who arent good at business, did NOT invest the money that was "publicised".. who are losing money faster than the tittanic took water, who know nothing about our culture OR FOOTY

and are as destructivE AS the G & H/Purslow/broughton/RBS/Hodgson situation.. .. The positive is that there are still people ready to fight to keep the TRUE spirit that Shankly brought to this club, even in the face of insults and propaganda

...and who would deny the basic right of opinion, just because the TRUTH is unpopular and dont fit the "commercial"..!

Mark Shaw > Don't you ever EVER EVER! put me in the camp with Hillsborough deniers. You know nothing of me or how I, or my family was affected by Hillsborough. I cannot and will not read any further than that on this or any future post. This conversation is OVER. You haven't won the arguement I just can't speak to anyone who can post that!!! Shame on me?????? What the F*CK do you know???? F*cking NOTHING!!!!"!!!!!

F-way. We Come Not To Pay
CS > as usual like the others u resort to abuse! u dont defend Kenny against exploiters of our club..&.u cant communicate, without foul language..this was over before u started Mark.. we wont miss u..!! (CS)
ChRiS SmiTH
Mark,you are swallowing the illusiion that FSG are "sound" they are bankrupt...it was myself who responded above not Sean (CS) if u mention respect and then just "file away" the treatment of Kenny etc ..and cover up the obvious , that BR is F S G's man...

Mark Shaw> I fail to see why the appointment of Brendan Rodgers is reason to campaign against FSG. Just because you don't think he's a big enough name to manage LFC? I really think you will be eating your words in a season or two. As for the dealings with RBS and...<snip>
 Maybe some explaination to why I'm so angry is required........I WAS THERE........and six days later I tied my scarf to the railings around the Kop and laid flowers on the pitch. Since that day I've stood shoulder to shoulder with the families in the fight for justice. I've written to every prime minister and home secretary since, I've signed petitions, been on marches, and attended vigils..

.I've been to every memorial at I could possibly get to (I was there the day Andy Burnham got shouted down) and best of all I was on St Georges plateau on the day the Hillsborough panel released thier report. But you tell me "Shame on me"? Really, you have said J.Henry disrespected the families by not going to the memorial, How many have you been to? really how many? I can hold my head up high, I've done my bit for the 96, I havn't noticed too many mentions of the Justice campaign or the s*n boycott on your page. Yes I swore, I think I was justified. You see to me You'll Never Walk Alone isn't just a nice song, it's my credo.

 F-way. We Come Not To Pay
CS > "your credo" ??????????? then u dont have any excuses, Mark, sometimes young "fans" can be forgiven for not appreciating Kenny , if u are who u say u are..then U of all people should appreciate that to carry the grief and to go to all those funerals and put Liverpool people in front of himself Marina and his family , (notwithstanding what he did as legendary player and manager, and as constant ambasssador)

...means he deserved MUCH, MUCH much better, for u to "accept" what Henry did, to give Kenny a contract then break it.(and break Kenny's heart , to disrespect that MAN!) .after only one full season, stinks , STINKS, & stinks all the way from Liverpool to Boston..THAT alone is enough to want those people to keep away from our club....yes, shame on YOU, Mark, for defending F S G!! CS) the thing is,, you aren't dealing with what is wrong about them, like so many "fans" you are getting into attacks on the messengers.

.. Sean has had to put up with it..I have been fighting for ppl's rights for so long that i am sick of it..the same mentality drove Shanks frm our club in 1974.. this club has been my life's constant..everyone else gone, I dont have to bleed on here.. and I dont and wont "justify" this battle for its soul! and don't tell me about Y . N. W. A.

 .. because you are NOT applying it here... HOPE is to overcome the infection caused by people trying to take what WE built and turn it into THEIR "F(r)ANCHISE" .. p.s IF you state you have "had enough" of this conversation, then stand by your words , only then I mght believe in your sincerely.and even if we dont agree , i would respect YOU! ..as u obviously dont respect us,..(CS)

F-way. We Come Not To Pay > 
Sean .> guys... we are getting off the point here and I am not gonna start a slagging match. Mark I am sorry for your troubles and the fact you were at Hillsborough. But we have made some very valid points as to why FSG are not right for LFC. those who continue to support FSG have disrespected the admins rather than have a civil intelligent debate. I agree with everything that Chris Smith has said, however I wanna get rid of talking about Hillsborough on this. (seanoc)

Chris East-west Invest Ursun > No Sean this is RIGHT ON point, ppl like Mark come on here, ignore all the ponts made against F S G then attempt to convince "fannies" to believe in the Yankers...and swallow more of their BS! (CS) read on ..................

Marie Buckley >
have a read of this and maybe bells may ring for some of you!!!
New Premier League rules derived from self-interest, not fair play
www.guardian.co.uk
David Conn: The deal by the Premier League clubs over losses is clearly a compromise and was made without any commitment for the greater good of the game

Chris> "This has been pushed for by the American owners of United, Arsenal and LIVERPOOL, who bought English clubs as investments, and have NO INTENTION of spending money on them."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/feb/07/premier-league-self-interest-fair-play?CMP=twt_gu

Chris East-west Invest Ursun > https://www.facebook.com/FenwayWeComeNotToPay , as you Know Marie (its all been written, so many times..) too many are ashamed to admit they have been suckered TWICE!!

Marie Buckley > Chris.....I'm mystified how some supporters have buried their heads in the sand inthe vain hope that things are going to miraculously get better and our club will be returned to its former position in the top four and once again be relevant CL contenders..............................Well, that's not going to happen nor or any time soon............if in fact ever.... as long as we are owned by people who have no interest in 'soccer' other than the lucrative deals and merchandising side of it.

Chris East-west Invest Ursun > I have just spent all day on a video, If i can get it uploaded check the "we come not to pay" group tomorrow..when we get them out, always have Hope, Marie....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ekkIREG9Y


Chris East-west Invest Ursun> The risk has been taken, we cant keep dwelling on the errors made by the directors, from Moores through Parry , Hicks Purslow Broughton and Ayre..the fans are as much to blame for allowing this mess.. it s the equivalent of playing fiddle on the top deck as the Titanic sinks...dont complain CAMPAIGN..
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ChRiS> 
Sean please ..when u talk about "chris" could please be specific... :) (CS) ..:)   btw my dear old ma (departed) said "never argue with idiots, ppl wont see the difference.. "  anyone who puts Kenny down is worthless "...as far as i am concerned he is beyond reproach, for what he did after Hillsborough for us for the community and for humanity, ppl forget he ion the league twice and double as manager then,.last season He won a cup , the first trophy in  6 years..got us to another final in his first full season..The yankers broke his contract, THAT ALONE is enough reason to spit on John W****er Henry, never mind ignoring Rafa, snubbing Hillsborough and supporting the George F***ing W. Bush campaign...goodness...what do these "fannies" need ..they would sell our club to the devil...if the media propaganda told them to...foolish ppl, and many who are reluctant to admit that they have been FOOLED TWICE, once by G & H and TWICE with F S G , so desperate they lash out at anyone who dares show them the TRUTH.. (CS) 
Hey Sean a guy from sussex wants to close this page ha ha ha ...F S G clones and fannies everywhere.. (CS)  when Henry goes belly uo and his emoire sinks ilike the titanic into the financial abyss lets hope these morons are still  around to mock for their stupidity.. Yankers have NOTHING  to do with OUR club..absolultely NOTHING (CS) 

SEAN> Benitez + backroom staff cost £7.75m to get rid of (according to the club accounts)
Hodgson cost £2.5m to sign from Fulham and £7.5m to sack
Dalglish's compensation hasn't been made public to my knowledge. I've seen a reported figure of £8m but there was also a report that he had turned down the compensation.
Rodgers cost around £5m to sign from Swansea
So if we take the Dalglish figure at rumour value then we have paid out around £30m in compensation to managers and backroom staff in less than 3 years. That's madness, it's no wonder our finances are down the toilet. so i think we are stuck with rodgers as j.w henry & co will not be wanting to pay out more compo anytime soon 

    Fenway. We Come Not To Pay we would certainly be in a better situ with NO yankers in our club, 50% more profit on kit sales etc and and dynamc management that understands our culture we can t keep the status quo just because the club has been mismanaged since so manz years, we have to take it over otherwise there is no future for what we value most (CS)..
   
Chris East-west Invest Ursun > http://www.facebook.com/FenwayWeComeNotToPay
   
 Mark Shaw> "Stuck" with Rodgers??? surely you can see the progress made? If not I don't know what you're watching

CS > Mark,
 F S G are THE problem, , betraying Kenny, (which alone makes them unTRUSTworthy as custodians), ignoring Rafa, both these men are of massive value to our club, having made the progress with the youth players which "buck" is benefiing from.(between them Rafa and Kenny developed 25 international standard youth players ..for the club to "use" (Rafa brought Kenny back and Rudolfo in)

...BR is a novice using OUR club for HIS education & "CV", he has won nothing, and whilst the footy may be "pretty" we still havent beaten a club in the top half!! progress?..decent coach , but as a man, not big enough "winner" to be manager OF LIVERPOOL..

 Henry also snubbed the Hillsborough memorial and backed Bush's campaign,

 ..WE members @ Global REdS) Do NOT want such people associated with LFC.. thats more important than what Rodgers does.

.. Kenny got us a our first trophy in 6 years, and 2 cup finals and there's no reason to say we wouldn't have been challenging this season, instead F S G took us back to another "re-building" cost
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FOOTY

CS> we just more than dominated the "money-made champs" ...enjoy u fools!

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/superb-reds-denied-at-etihad
BR - is a lamb leading lions..a decent coach - but not a "winner" @ arsenal & citeh we should have 6 points but lack the instincts that Kenny and Rafa would bring.. F S G and their clones.. OUT!
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/rodgers-this-is-the-proof
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/i-love-to-get-the-ball-down-and-play 
well Done Andre, good lad, just another insight into the roles Rudolfo (introduced by Rafa) and Kenny (brought back by Rafa) had that BR is "using"

and F S G wasting. to discard Rafa and Kenny is a disgrace to OUR club!!
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/johnson-he-occupies-two-defenders
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/sturridge-set-for-special-milestone




SOLUTIONS

* OUR boycott of official shops will eventually "hurt" the Yankers profits and benefit supporters who buy alternatives from each other..enabling them to ..

* Acquire shares, One voting share each for Global REdS Supporters and registered Lfc fans..around 7 million @ an average euro 50 per share would..

* Together with ex-players, current or future players  & "Celebrity" fans to raise a fund of 200-300 million euros..

* Shareholders AGM (with online involvement) employs  management to properly manager our off field enterprise Worldwide ; via supporter/fan club networks who will make "rogue trading" redundant..

* The "Holy Trinity" shall be restored by returning to the "Boot room" relationship ; bonding players, Team management and TRUE REd Supporters to ensure INTELLIGENT socialist ethics that "Shanks" installed in our club..by bringing back Kenny AND Rafa.. probable retention of Rudolfo & Mike and either Steve C. or BR, according to the members wishes.

=====================RedBEL-Lions
Y-our video will be live at: http://youtu.be/kUxAC7N3Ckw  Censored??? ; 

other

Thank YOU, CaRrA!




Carra earned the respect of our "travelling Kop" .. and i think wise enough to know when to go, whilst still competing at the top level, however, the best defenders learn how to compensate for lack of pace with use of game knowledge & positioning,..I feel he should play for as long as he can..because later he will regret not playing.... 

However, this is a time when we miss managers Like Kenny or Rafa, who can bring the best out of players.. Like Danny Agger, who has the passion that  could be encouraged.. Carra, if he is to be a coach, could do worse than to back Danny for the next Captain of Liverpool, Agger does it for Denmark..

p.s.  thank you Carra! (for all those games & memories)
http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/2013/02/07/goodbye-jamie/comment-page-1/#comment-112067


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/reds-fans-to-receive-spanish-award
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ha ha .. 7 england players 4 ex-mancs (Robson ? but no Dalglish ) so no bias then? LMAO! from an era dominated by LFC.. hmmm they know..."FA" :) 

LINKS:-

http://monty-logic.blogspot.com/2013/01/itchy-mountain-day-one-of-our-club.html

www.monty-logic-club.org

REdNET ; https://www.facebook.com/pages/REdNeT/245954208796041

and OUR CLUB, https://www.facebook.com/groups/CS.LbIrD.OURCLUB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R3GtAnO66o learn the lyrics..they are important!! Honesty Billy Joel

be honest and lose the mask.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=g-ibK5L2a4I&NR=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j0c_MbhIMJ4#!

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http://www.facebook.com/groups/without.frontiers.ue/

the first UE "Balkan & Global friendship event" to bring people together , welcome, exchange, grill, party, with Fun , music , dance & footy tournament ; for kids charity and especially to overcome barriers between people local & global ; to make friends and benefit kids and y-our future....without frontiers; first event planned for Užice/Zlatibor/Mocra Gora region...join, contribute and enjoy..."make a miracle"

first friendship weekend;

31 may->2 June, with extensions

Interim programme;

- Friday; 31 may ;
from noon;
welcome party, @Dubliner Irish Pub,
Meet & greet, bar snacks,
ticket & t-shirt sale.

- Saturday; 1 June ; main events
12h -fun & footy tournament
18h -grill party ; connections
21h - benefit concert & dance

- Sunday 2nd June final day ;
11-13h "Sendvic brunch" @ Pub
14h semi finals
15h Final

then "Surprise event"..

& extra activities for those who stay ..!

...& enjoy this beautiful region..(& after the friendship party....make more friends.. with nature!) can stay for more days with us...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUGBJA-eYEY
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (Part 1)
CS> thick,,,! hmmmm
Triin P> ?
CS> = insensitive!

CSer NOTES;

Elif > has written the following reference about you on your profile: 

Chris hosted me for three nights in Podgarica, a city which people say that
is boring. :D But when we went around with Chris, it seems not more boring
that most other places in the Balkans. :D We went to the little fishing
village, where I was treated with home-grown tea and spices. Chris is a
very sociable person, he talks a lot and he listens a lot, too. It was
amazing having conversations with him about life and relationships, I
needed it. Thank you, Chris for everything and see you again sometime!
profile,  



ARTu
CS> may spend a few months (mid-summer) if i can find a good cheap apartment there ( and this ; http://www.facebook.com/groups/without.frontiers.ue )

February 3rd, 2013 - 10:08 am
thanks again.. V! enjoy a "romantic italian carnival" ;) with Dom...

I finally got to couch at "GodMother"
Mum Artu fed me well
we watched a "scottish" (film from ken)
the story later , i will tell

Dined at the orient express in UE
another dream fulfilled
I drunk that much ("klingon")wine ("T'Ga"?)
i almost myself spilled.. :)

take care and thanks again
cu in Pg for my /BM? Birthday party..or anytime :)
CS , the Go(o)Dfather :)x
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if u want to know the darkest of me...its here...!
Now 2 be alien  (part1)
http://now2balien.blogspot.com
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Saturday, February 2, 2013

Campaign, dont Complain; WE are the CLUB!

REdNET / Global REdS

sclog13202.."Faith is the purpose behind all things..."

CAMPAIGN not complain..about OUR CLUB, about LIFE..

WHy do I bother?? (and yes there will be idiots screaming "dont!" ha ha)


...when it is a major fight, EVERY DAY,  to wake so many people from a sort of coma, induced by constant media propganda ...that has filled the head of sheeple since forever,  technology has removed the ability to "reason" from the heads of so many of the global population.. 
BUT ..WE shall NOT be fooled again..WE are THe CLUB..and I shall not rest until we regain this...our life' s passion!

a "club" is made up of people ..it is not a "F(r)ANchise" of some exploiters, their titanic - system sunk, but they (in this situation Henry and his F S G clones and "fannies" ) use media and propaganda to fool you into thinking they are in control
(even using their own "stats" Henry's empire lost 50% of its investments recently, so the "fannies" claiming he is a "great businessman" is a myth!)

18 Years ago, i woke up from a coma.. and in common with many, who have (literally) "faced death" it had a profound effect..

we live in a madness.. people talk about "realism"..but when everything u see is apparently made up of atom which "move" ... how easily the sheeple accept that, but wont accept that WE should own OUR OWN CLUB???????????????????///

I "saw" what was possible , within and without, our club, but it wasnt "scripted" more like a glimpse of a picture or scenes of a film..like a jigsaw
puzzle I have been travelling around europe, finding "pieces" some which "fit" some which I had to put away and pick up later ...and piece the bits
together ..



we are close to that scene.. and I am close to the end of my "journey" not so much the beginning of the end (as people were foolishly mislead concerning
21 December) but the end of the beginning..but as with EVERYTHING in this life the choice is still y-ours... "the age of aquarius" ..its not my
place , because I am of conflict, my "mission" is to take this journey, not to see its "arrival".. (DaX)

CrAzY , yeah of course I am, and, so many times I felt ready to give up or give in... fighting & arguing (like my mentor "Shanks"..) with people
that should be on our side,

"you can do that" ..how many times I have heard this, and how many times must i prove them wrong??

I told a local REd the "old story of the 2 shoe salesmen" ....

"The first flies to Africa, (or somewhere without commercial "civilization" ) his plane lands, he checks in the hotel, goes researching on the streets..
and that evening phones his "western boss" .... "I am catching the next flight back, NO ONE WEARS SHOES...  ......  .....   .....

The 2nd salesman flies in, checks in, goes researching, same places... phones HIS boss... send me 10 containers of shoes, NO ONE WEARS SHOES..

are you NOT sick of living IN the BOX>>?????

The major problem with Our club, is that we never had a man with "ShankS vision" in the boardroom...

.....Some of the "educated" fannies, tell me .. look at Portsmouth, it didnt work... we are NOT them - WE are LIVERPOOL

some F S G "clones" ("the borg!?" ) .. say Man Utd are succesful with yankers .. thats now a NASTY club.. WE have SOUL, WE are LIVERPOOL

they say Barca is not a good example because they have financial problems... but those problems were not made by supporters..and WE are the BEST..

bankers (& yankers) sell U a load of BALLS! :)
 ..WE ARE LIVERPOOL

When I mention Bayern.,. and the Bundesliga "rule" that supporters must own 51 % ...they go quiet,,,but even that is not how I see it ..
I see OUR CLUB with a share for everyone who invests 50 quid. but onle one vote, to avoid speculators and business monopoly (again)...
it should be possible to buy non-voting shares which WILL give a return on investment.. ..

with 7 million registered fans (and probably more than double that Worldwide, We are more powerful than many nations...collectively we dont need "sponsors" the "LIVERPOOL BRAND NAME" is bigger than any one whose name pollutes our shirts etc,

HOW...when so many will try to say it is "impossible" ???


I will tell another story..

" In a quiet country town there was an old man , who sat, almost every day in the village square, who seemed to know the answer to everyone's questions..



... the leader of a gang of young men got p*ssed off with this.. and told his cronies " I am sick of that old man,,,always being so wise...thinks he has all the answers.. I have a solution...I will take a little bird in my hand... and hold it behind my back..and ask the old man if the bird is alive or dead..
if he says Alive ..I will squeeze it and prove him wrong.. if he says Dead, I will proiduce the live bird, HE CANT win...this time...." ..his buddies
thought this was a great ploy...

....so the young "leader" found a little bird and went to the old man... and stood in front with a sneer, said; " so old man who knows it all.. .....i have a little bird behind my back.. is it ALIVE ...or is it DEAD ... ? " ....
..The old man...looked deep into the eyes of the youth , and began to smile... "THE ANSWER, my son, is in your OWN hands!" ... he replied!..

and therefore WE are the special one, that you have to be ,

 WE are LIVERPOOL ; WE ARE THE CLUB...

ChRiS
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http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/index.php?act=mostrarNota&id_nota=81&idioma=in

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/the-arsenal-action-in-8-videos

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/reds-held-to-gunners-draw


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/we-showed-the-right-mentality

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/suarez-closes-on-scoring-top-spot


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/sturridge-let-s-stay-in-love-forever


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/they-re-forging-something-special


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/lucas-he-is-a-proper-brazilian


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/gerrard-gives-me-goose-pimples


SCLOG - Diary etc..
 
CS> I am mostly occupied with REdNET, campaign s and the u.r.s.u.n. (Global REdS network) and our club locally..and "Monty Logic" ..but I am hoping so, if our budget for travel allows, some of our members may have friends who can host me in Klona or Cork to keep the costs down.. credos for organising this gathering, i am sure it will go well!

8:40pm Micheal O Regan> i hope it will plenty interest anyway

Thursday
9:15pm
Chris> Hiya Michael, I dont know if u considered having special t-shirts printed for the KLona meeting..

but we just got a deal with a local Red whose mother works for a textile factory,
we are ordering a lot for our friendship meetings in May and the Global REdS meet in June , so if u want to take advantage
, let me know and i 'll put u in touch direct with factory,,,YNWA!
(plus extra for name and number)

Original EX FACTORY UE:
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T shirt - qnt 100 psc -3.50 eur
Polo shirt 100 psc- 8.20 eur
Retro shirt 100 psc- 6.30 eur
Scarf 100 psc - 5.00 eur


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http://www.facebook.com/events/497251876993327/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita

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be honest and lose the mask.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=g-ibK5L2a4I&NR=1  (masquerade)

13201 

22:58
ChriS SmiTH>  Laku noc! sweet dreams!
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"promises" ............this morning, I went for a run, have been away since a week, and needed to pump my blood and refresh myself.. say what U mean and mean what u say, because your character depends on it,, have SOUL, care, dare and make positive energy.. LIVE its (written) the opposite of evil...be GOOD! or i will be gone..forever ... a nice sound..for 'Nica dreams..

22:25 ChriS SmiTH> DaX ; The star of my story ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j0c_MbhIMJ4#!
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22:11 ChriS SmiTH>
I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no more hurt, only more love. Intense love does not measure, it just gives , Peace begins with a smile.

Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat.

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.

Let us touch the dying, the poor, the lonely and the unwanted according to the graces we have received and let us not be ashamed or slow to do the humble work.

above ; sayings of Mother Teresa

cuvaj se!

Mother Teresa " if you want to help yourself, help someone who truly needs you" ? who will find good (god) in their eyes..
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8:58pm
Chris> Hiya Chrissie! hows are U, where are u??? do u want to join me for a drink or join this ... https://www.facebook.com/groups/without.frontiers.ue/
UE " In Wires and WITHOUT frontiers" = friendship weekend @ UE

    the first UE "Balkan & Global friendship event" to bring people together , welcome, exchange, grill, party, with Fun , music , dance & footy tournament ; for kids charity and
4:38pm
Christine D> Hey Chris.....living in Manhattan. How is Montenegro?

5:03pm
Chris> more or less the same. but i am not..no "internations" no snobs, bringing lots of visitors and my culture to MNE & the Balkans , solo of course , but still cant find a modern woman worthy of my trust.. so i just carry on campaigning and not complaining..

must be boring in NY?  ;)
 
 & sent CD's buddy (old-fashioned blond lady in Pg?) to Olivera L>
CS> Hiya, I am still surviving Pg, have u learnt some empathy yet?
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ChRiS>TriinRED,     nice pic----! btw,

Triin P      Hmm     Plastic red?



 ChRiS > TriinITY, I opened my home , heart & soul to you.. and offered to share that place, physical, mental and spiritual with you.. because u are troubled girl.. i shared many intimate things with you.. but in a period of 5 weeks , u chose only to send me a complaint, then u want to tell me really dont understand ... ? why i am angry with u..u didnt care! did u?? ChRiS

 TriinITY> If I didn't care, I wouldn't kept in contact with you, I wouldn't write this to you right now. You know I was busy because I hosted my friend for three weeks in my home, and that I don't have internet in my village. If you're angry at me, and you think I don't care, then what kind of a person do you think I am? I always cared about you and what you went through, I don't think I deserve being angry with. How you phrase your message makes me think that you see me as someone who took what you offered, your home, you opening yourself, and simply didn't care. If you see me as that, tell me.

Also, you called me plastic which made me ponder.

12:43pm
Chris> and i wouldnt "bother" if i didnt think u were "worth it".. i WANTED to get a "reaction" from u, because i expect someone of your sensitivity to be careful, and u were careless, it takes less than a minute to send a positive message, but i only got a "moan" in a period of about 4/5 weeks, and i react honestly..whether u like it or not, my life is too short to be "diplomatic" and when u reflect one day, when i am gone u will understand what true friendship really means, not just saying what someone wants to hear.. take care, ChRiS
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DAX /Dusko
Chris> http://www.facebook.com/DaX if u find Danica a job, please make sure they respect her__??? ChRiS Born on February 4, 1984Female

8:36pm
Dusko P> I'll do my best

11:20am
Chris>ok I know u met her, as I hope u will be honest and respect her, please also respect me, and keep me informed. as i care for her very much..

11:45am
Dusko P>Yeah, I got that
I gave her a contact or two for work, but more importantly I'm gonna work with her on getting her a bit more focused, a bit less random and going in the directions she wants. she seems like a good girl, just needs a bit of support.

11:56am
Chris>
i have a plan to support her and bring her into positive activity, i am just concerned that she might get confused by u adding yours onto the direction i already agreed with her... thats what i mean about respect.. she is supposed to meet me in Pg, next week..and i wished u had mentione d that to me before .. because too many "directions" will not help her.. i know u mean well... but u dont know me well enough.. take care, cuvaj se ChRIS
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13131 Bg B'day party with  DaX, ^ walk in the woods & CharitY in UE..

to Ms Harvey, 97% , even Nicer 'Nica, DaX...

...............My poem for your special day... DaniS

@ Budva Irish , talking a lot

drinking and dancing ,

I couched at yours..

it wasnt a "chance-thing"..

then we had the "family meet"

this "guest" i wanted to greet

extreme feeling between us..

bud SADly i returned on the bus,

but TRUE SOUL_MATES can NEVER let go..

that much..

by now you must know...

the Bg party had its funny moments

a little tense but also saw a sad little girl

yet, next day in the park

all in OUR universe was well..

WE are SUN and Moon & together..

we could probably even change the weather..

I wish you all you DESERVE..

and much more, but avoid the curve,,

BE STRONG, BE GOOD, be all that you should..

because 97% is a very GOOD start.. <SMILE>

Hugs & X , from your ChRiS :) 


ChriS SmiTH> DaX
I "over loaded" you with news of my progress because i only wanted to share with you..but I will be careful to help you to become strong before september..
over the next months, step by step to stay on course, i am your friend and much more.. I am the only honest person who will risk the truth with you,
and be a "tough trainer" when you need that too, to avoid "excuses" distractions and keep you "on course"  but of course this needs trust..in both directions.. I hope we learnt that already..vidimo se!

Ja " preko loaded " vas sa vestima moj napredak , jer sam samo hteo da podelim sa vama ..
ali ja c´u biti oprezan da vam pomogne da postanu jaki pre septembra ..
tokom narednih meseci , korak po korak, da ostanu na kursu , ja sam tvoj prijatelj i još mnogo toga ..
Ja sam samo iskrenaosoba koja c´e rizikovati istinu sa vama,
i da bude" težak trener " kada je potrebno da se previše,
da bi se izbeglo " izgovore " uznemiravanja i držati vas " na kursu "
ali naravno to mora poverenje .. u oba smera ..
Nadam se da c´emo vec´ naucili da .. Vidimo se !
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8:06pm
Chris> Dusko p; contact who u met at "MG" saturday .. (i hope if u decide to stay in Bg ... that u have a job with respect.. but you know where I believe you should go... with GOOD..i wrote to with poem on the other...(ChRiS SMITH)
http://www.facebook.com/kalkulus?ref=ts&fref=ts
Dusko P> Lives in Belgrade, SerbiaKnows Serbian, English, Spanish (Male)
8:51pm
Chris >


i also gave u contact with Ivans Irish pub in UE, and he has yr phone number, because when we make charity project there,

there may be some events and work for you, but we need to talk about it, because there is alot of activity u can join,  I also met a man (another Ivan) on the bus from Bg who told me of Dutch "chris" who runs a charity in UE @ popova voda, where Vesna lives..
its very small word and very positive for u and y-our good life,,, btw do u realise that "evil" is the opposite spelling of "LIVE"..

01:13
DaX> laku noc:) see you tomorrow

Monday
19:42 ChriS SmiTH> i am sorry i didnt know u were going to meet me at bus sta. just a quick reply , using Vesna s laptop at UE, i said a lot,
i MEANT ALL I said and I hope you did too, ebcause i trsut you again..
and will write more when I have more time, but i hope you know what i want, and what i feel u can be , and the things we can do..
 i had this connection with Dusko ...
(Belgrade, Central Serbia, Serbia)
Sent January 28th, 2013 - 7:21 pm
Dusko P is a Verified Member

13128 Re: CS 13123 ChriS-Dusko>
CS: Hiya good to cu saturday, we had a quiet sunday (needed that) i am at Vesna (UE) at the moment,so just a short reply..
I will connect u with ("DaX") via FB, if u cane find her something where they will respect her, that would be good! cuvaj SE,  see u again, soon ChriS

Dusko P. wrote: Here's the website I told you about last night, for learning Serbian, hope it helps
http://livemocha.com/pages/languages/learn-serbian/
also, can you send me 
("DaX")'s facebook contact, or send her mine, see if we can do something about her job hope you had fun today, see you next time

ChriS SmiTH wrote:
Hiya again.. I didnt find host for tonight , so I expect to arrive , goodness willing, about 18,30 bus @ Bg,saturday
I wonder if you want to meet me , I can take a coffee in train station restoran until 19h, if u dont come I will walk to "Magic Garden caffe"
.if u feel like it. u can join the party there....ok? (dont forget I will NOT be online tomorrow!!! ) ChRiS ..
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i hope u can spend more days with me in Pg, because not least that i enjoy your company  i would like us to have some extra days helping me to learn your language, and helping you to keep ahead of Vera in english . .and to improve upon our new feelings of progress TOGETHER..hope and amazing coincidences that happened todaz that will make you smile..

someone who was next to meet on the bus walked with me to the station this morning ,  HE )not me= started to talk about ENERGY and that he had just found someone who is 100 per cent compatible.. and although we (you and I) are 97 percent..its a GOOD NEW beginning... do nt you feel the energy___????
cuvaj se, I wrote a poem, something spontaneous.. to follow..

ChRiS
Livemocha - Serbian
livemocha.com Serbian is a form of the Serbo-Croatian language, and the official language of Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.
 It has around 9 million native speakers, mainly in Serbia, but also in neighboring countries: Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia, Albania, Hungary, Slovenia, Romania, Greece, Slovakia and .....
20:00
ChriS SmiTH
the poem, its in my memory from the bus, and i couldnt find my original note but ..i hope u understand... and i have to do this before Vesna reclaims her laptop ...SMILE

I send you a BIG SMILE ::::::::
...to "DaX" or are U "NiCA" ..
this weekend you were NICER..

I am probably old enough to be your father..
and i suppose protective as a brother
i want to avoid the "jealousy of a typical lover"

in me too is the fountain of a son..
i want you to be THE one..

i am also just a boy, with so much ENERGY
wise though as Yoda ...i know WE ARE SOUL...mate!!
we are the TRUE meaning of SYNERGX

sincerely
all my love,
and spirit too is trusted in you

ChRIS ,
::BIG HUG and X


20:18
ChriS SmiTH> be care ful we are both like magnets and when u are weak (drunk) the devil s vultures and jackals (Mark?) circle around u...
 be strong be good , you know you what u should... do! cuvaj se, many more stories to be made..good ones !! battery gone now... SMILE!

Tuesday
08:20
ChriS SmiTH> just a quck message before the day starts, Vesna is in her room and i am just getting ready to go out ..... hoping another piece of our puzzle is in place by the end of this day.. do or dont do , 'Nica, (we focus on the "nicer" life.. slow things down stop and BREATHE, smile at the darkness,
we must be in this world but not OF this world, i send u good SPIRIT ..(but notVelibor,s Rakija! ) ha ha cuvaj se! ---. u know u can stay visit me or stay with me as long as i live, and after too we fight the 3 percent !


 Tuesday
21:53
("DaX")>
You're absolutely right that when a man is weak then the devil is waiting around the corner ...
 And you mean that Mark from San Francisco? I see him a second time in my life,
but Branko said it was very common guest of cafe...Maybe I had that night more problematic with Van Damme,
and I didnt noticed the true intentions of the Mark, did not pay attention .
.. But the good thing is that now I was on another training and I didnt drank alcohol. Thats a good thing:)))
How is be your day? Are you finis job in factory?


Wednesday
06:58
ChriS SmiTH> i t s early in the is morning that i can see your message.. yes i noticed Mark, but let me tell u about positive things .
.BECAUSE the pieces of the "puzzle" are forming very well, i didnt tell u yet but on the bus from Bg , monday i asked a localman if the bus stopped near vesna,s vilage (outiside of UE) and he was so kind. ...he asked the driver and showed me when i had to get off, etc

.. and we talkled a bit and HE knows a man in UE who helps kids!! and i asked him to make contact with Ivan,  but by CHANCE...when I mentioned to Ivan yesterday .... Ivan told me that he ALREADY met him,  because that man came to his irish pub on saturday!!!!! its been amazing, i met 2 more friends of Ivan who can help the project

I went on the OLDEST bus in europe yesterday ..it was funny...
and the secretary at the factory spoke english as if she went to the same school as you ha ha ...but not as nice as you...oh i must be careful not to compliment u soooo much...  and she was so interested in my stories that we talked for 2 hours with mentioning the reason i was there

..and she mentioned ENERGY and had a son who likes football so i gave her one of my Liverpool balkan REdS t-shirts for him
,and she probably l also brings him and his friends as the boy has no father..
 all meetings were positive, we went to "orient express" restoran here in UE last night, and that was nice too. as i always wanted to go on the REAL train

...i know i should not be so soft and "sentimental" about u,
but i kept thinking all yesterday that I wish u could share every minute of this with me.. .the miracle is happening, adn i am glad that u do something for health, because u are very important..  i just keep seeing u in the "vision" as it becomes reality--- cuvaj se! Hugs and X
ChRiS


 07:07
ChriS SmiTH > Energy Empathy, humanity and spirit... people i meet keep using the words we talked about on sunday, ..not repeating me but saying them to me BEFORE I do.. its a miracle forming--
and Ivans girlfriend Tijana also had an idea for helping HOMELESS kids and orphans, that fits PERFECTLY with what YOU said to me..vidimo se!!

07:08 i miss U!  DOBRA Dan,   ica, I HOPE YOU are u ok, I am just back from UE, @ toloshi (Pg) home, so much to tell u , just a bit tired...
 positive ENERGY & hope is pushing our progress.. ...i will write again later..
<SMILE> molim..!

22:45
so, i just have to check what i already told u, I am sort of over-s(F)lowing and with too much energy ....and just want to share,,, did i mention the immense co-incidence..on the bus from Bg to UE,  i asked a man stting near me if the bus stopped at "popova voda" (where vesna lives) and his name was also "Ivan"  and he was really kind and checked with the driver and at the next stop introduced me to the driver . .and we got talking and he know a "chris" from holland who..is organising kids charities in ..."popova voda",....amazing huh??


btw "mark" kept coming back to "MG" and boasted that he's had 55 serbian girls in his bed since he moved to Bg..i think ...
no, it seems like i am being "small" i dont like , i just hope u keep the training and follow the GOOD way forward.. any news of your parents visit to BG???

22:51 do u like Zlatibor?..., I want to know "the Balkans" your language and your culture and in return I want to show you my world, before i leave it.. starting with Podgorica, then Istanbul /... do u have a turKish embassy near u, u could ask if u can use your passport to fly there?

22:59




when u want to start with "Monty Logic club" it would be good also to take club members to Mokra gore??,.  ..i hope u want to do this.. of course it has to be your choice.. ok, now i really am ,  writing too much ha ha I dont know when u will read this or if u understand , but  ..i send u positive energy.....! and a HUG x and a big <SMILE>
23:03
ChriS SmiTH  > laku noc

"DaX" > Today I meet Dusko, and I think in this moment of my cleaning negativ energy, he can be very positiv gay in my life..
.and we start story about how I change my negativ energy. First I need to help myself,  and when I be healty after that I can help other... Im tired and now is time for sleeaping...Leku noc, nice dreams:)

 

00:16
ChriS SmiTH > well i want u to have trust in me, as I trusted you.. I can show u the way to develop positive energy,  and by doing this with kids and sharing their energy... to be positive.. .i need you to do good things..
 and dont be distracted..keep your word, and anyway, i am also a bit tired physically,now although my heart and soul is on fire..  I go to sleep ... sweet .'Nica dreams
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www.youtube.com... Change your heart Look around you Change your heart It will astound you I need your lovin'  Like the sunshine Everybody's gotta learn sometime Everybody's got...

08:37
ChriS SmiTH> i thought maybe , for fun, u might like to know a bit about "DaX" ....and ..her(their) friendship with "Worf" ..
 i like the last line... when Worf says " maybe all of you will have to adapt to me" ... ..i hope things go well for u,
and u convince your parents u dont need "treatment" ..YOU ONLY NEED a GOOD friend.. and I know it is ME! ...I am looking forward to see u (Dani', 'Nica, Ms Harvey, 97% "DaX" ) ..ALL OF YOU.. again in pg next week. i need you to be me friend as much..as u do! cuvaj se!
ChRiS
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first friendship weekend;

31 may->2 June, with extensions

Interim programme;

- Friday; 31 may ;
from noon;
welcome party, @Dubliner Irish Pub,
Meet & greet, bar snacks,
ticket & t-shirt sale.

- Saturday; 1 June ; main events
12h -fun & footy tournament
18h -grill party ; connections
21h - benefit concert & dance

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- Sunday 2nd June final day ;
11-13h "Sendvic brunch" @ Pub
14h semi finals
15h Final

then "Surprise event"..

& extra activities for those who stay ..!

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