Tuesday, May 29, 2018

REdNET bootroom; "L'BIRD" ; post final; THE TRUE REd ISSUEs ; then, now and next year,,,WE DO "GO again"

THE TRUE REd issues ; 

then,
 now 
and 

next year,,,  

WE do "GO AGAIN"
 ... do you?

CS> since the semis (ScLoG) has been a bit "quiet" because a million opinions have been shoved down your throats,, however REdNET (CS) has been active,,,  more below...  just had this little exchange with yet another "fannie" 



 some one (!) asked how many Lfcplayers would get in rm side...

MY ANSWER; " who would want to, for Uefa favourite & money frauds "galactico cheats"? no thanks... ,

Firmino is happy at Lfc , Mo wont go after what Ramos did, ... anyway football is , despite the opinion of video game players & some idiot pundits, a team game , not just to put 11 top players on the same field, the collective force of the Liverpool team, on another day would blow away any team , including ron & co.. Benitez won against a superior "eleven" in 2005 ..because he got the team working in the 2nd half of Istanbul,... i agree with Jk (on this point at least) that is what makes football so great that there are always surprises , because.... a cohesive team and maybe a bit of good luck, can win over any arrogant bunch of prats... ;) "

REdNET bootroom opinion :
the issues

Then ( off the field)

"elephant in the room" the "january sale" yep, no one will want to discuss that in November, Lfc (in the form of JK) said that he had no intention of Phil C or Studge leaving the squad... saturday night... and having overcome 2 shocks to the team & travelling support;

a) Mo being "taken out" by ramos



b) Karius became their 12th man and gifted the vital 1st goal











players and supporters gleefully applauded the rightful efforts of Mane & co... to equalize... "back in the game" ? against all odds...........




hardly time to catch a breath, when on come "welsh galactico" Bale... to bail out rm with an almost freak goal, .. "magic' by an apparently "under valued" (?) rm player who has struggled to make the team this season.. wins it for them...


BIG player- after Mo was "taken out" by ramos...
Mane hits the post, then...










Karius Mk 2...

and its unworthy of Lfc fans "hating" a player, as much as the bile sticks in our throats..

...He is a "professional" Karius has an ego, ...he drives a big car, (as many do) with a number LK1 (personal plate) he came to Lfc to make his own fortune,.. he took the posiition of Gk from Simon, who IMO should NOT have replaced my personal favourite of Pepe Reina ..


I am a supporter of the team,, I have sympathy with supporters AND with the players who gave their best

.. i would argue , as I mentioned before ...

that Juergen should NOT have put him the position in such a game, but Karius was happy to take the credit if things went well... I think of Milly , who worked his socks off through the tournament
... and maybe played his last season for Lfc (he will be 33 and u know how young players will challenge him next season) Hendo too .. who fought hard , especially after Mo going off made it harder.. .


.... Mo...I have deep sympathy much more than Karius because he and we knew that he could have won it for the supporters and the team, Firmino and Mane, who tried to make the difference after Mo s brutal exit...

Wijnaldum too , who showed more class and effort after replacing Ox in the latter stages of the CL, young Trent , a 19 year old scouser, seeing his home team humiliated on the world stage by stupid errors from a man several years older..

Lovren who was with VVD impressive when so many expected him to be weak against Ronaldo, and dont forget Robbo, the "duracel bunny" of the Liverpool team....


he ran and ran and fought and made last ditch tackles (as did Dejan) that also denied the poser a final goal.

..THESE are the men I empathize with..

. i will never HATE a player in a REd shirt, thats just wrong... BUT, i will state my truth, as i see it..


THE ISSUE however.. is this ... Lfc dont have to be Madrid or Citeh to win trophies (in extreme form Leicester showed that in the EPL recently..) but HAD Lfc kept Phil , even could have done the deal with barca (as Lfc did with Keita) .. to remain for the for the rest of the season.. (he was cup-tied anyway) and arguably our "magician" could have been the match winner, even if Mo was hit by their "assasin" ?????

Now (on the field)


I wont apologise for this ... because its the policies OFF the field that fans dont understand that dictate much of what goes on..

in recent games Lfc have relied on ONLY ELEVEN "regulars" to see out the EPL 17/18 season and the Champions League campaign.

Sure, JK makes a fair statement that its a "positive" to get to a final and remain in the top of the EPL, however I would claim that ...

If Phil, had been at the club until now, and Studge (yes, I wouldnt start him, but I feel he would arguably have more impact , even past his best, than Danny or young Solanke..) Lfc would not have needed to win the last game to "qualify" ... (money target)

Winning the drawn games v everton (twice) Stoke & WBA

..an extra 8 points? puts Lfc in 2nd and that much closer to the current champions..

the money received would more than compensate for the delayed sale... (and I wont mention Grujic, who looks despondent now...)


Just a word or 2 about the season.. the away game at Citeh, and we have seen several times referee decisions that contradict the red card for Sadio, prior to which, Lfc were troubling citeh... gave them impetus and cost the Red team confidence and Mane didnt get his form back until this last month (IMO) ... would the Lfc boardroom have kept Phil if Lfc were close to the title...? we will never know... but...

On past experience... I doubt it,, since USA corp took control of their business; players worth collectively over half a BILLION have gone, key players that could have made Lfc champions instead of "also rans"


THE ONLY COACH THAN WON A TROPHY SINCE usa CORP in 11 seasons , was Kenny , and they sacked him although he nearly won 2 in his first full season (2nd time around..)

Mascherano, Alonso, Pepe, Agger, Torres, Sterling, Suarez, (even Stevie was denied a new contract & could have still done a job for the team, instead of USA...) and Coutinho...

SOLD TO RIVAL TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 in recent years I have decided not to travel back to Liverpool because i have problems with the people in the boardroom who IMO are not suitable to influence my club...


Next ; do you "Go Again" ? ..WE DO!

Look at these ...
















The support has been remarkable,... so many have given their all to "be there" in heart if not in body, ...

.My own sympathy is with all the supporters who are on low income who struggled to get tot an expensive event, for example local lads took a chance a drove a small bus to Kiev..their average income only 300 euros p/month /... how do they feel?

have the "shark infested boardroom" given THEIR all ? have they f>>k!!

ACTION by YOU?????


ChRiS>
 to all members & friends ... important, please... , and with compliments of "REdS abroad" link; @/groups/eured.supporters ... supporting... a new concept of how Liverpool Supporters can improve conditions for fans , local & global and now a couple of days after the final day, I would appreciate , if you have a few moments today, your reaction,

 not about the game itself, (enough has been said !)

but about how supporters are treated , considering the cost of travel or tickets, any contribution that help ourgroup of true REDS (all non profit volunteers) improve the loyal institution of true Red supporters , local & global...?
best wishes, Christopher Richard Smith
YNWA/J4t96


https://www.facebook.com/events/1825189551119009/

SEE ...
save our club, empower REd supporters, local and global, ..... 

get with the "L'BIRD" (coin) ... the only LIVERPOOL currency ... 

(More than, this,  more than a BIT BETTER than "bitcoin" ) 

REdNET > 
https://harveysclog.blogspot.com/2018/05/lfc-lost-it-and-u-can-stick-theres.html  

a long and travelled journey to get back to where we were...

NOW, support the empowerment of Red supporters ; local & global via "L'Bird"

..  YOUR Liverpool currency (coin) ...  

"MORE than than this ....

... L'BIRD is more than a BIT better than "bitcoin" !

;)

/events/387543281654937


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Read PLEASE...carefully...
2018/05/from-kiev-with-love-coma-liverpool-life

I was a Shanks boy, on the kop when i wasnt tall enough to see the game as i got "surfed all over the terrace , when 25000 men packed into that massive socialist collective at the Kop end, something not even comparible with the modern support, .. maybe sometimes the away fans get close to it... I have never booed a player .. ever! however on social media (as i would in the old days with Red mates before or after the game discuss the team, players and such, in recent years I have decided not to travel back to Liverpool because i have probllems with the people in the boardroom who IMO are not suitable to influence my club... . I am a supporter of the team,, I have sympathy with supporters AND with the players who gave their best..



this is postponed (members know where and when to meet)

Tuesday, May 8, 2018

REbTV; REdNET bootroom UPDATE ; Plan B-Right-ON ?


B- RIGHT- ON

RedNet bootroom updated.. 11th May ..




the "B-RIGHT-on plan.. sunday the 13th ? lucky for some...
I have mixed feelings about the selection..
Whilst I probably would want Mo & co wrapped in cotton wool until pre-final training camp.
its also an idea to keep the lads "match fit" and  blow away recent doubts from the roma & chelski away days... 

AND... with Salah going for new EPL and Lfc records dont be surprised if the team tend to play through him on sunday... 

although, SADIO MANE has really shone brighter in recent games when opposing defences focus on stopping Salah..
on the other hand , may be wise to leave Mo with some records to target next season..
starting with a Preniere league winners medal...please?


so select any 11 from ;

a GK,  

Trent , Dejan, VVD,  Robbo,  

Hendo, Milly, Wijn, 

Mane, Firm. & Mo!

;)

Sing UP... before ,  during , after and in Kiev;  
WITH HOPE IN YOUR HEART....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptUVG-zviGk&feature=share

just a word of caution, Lfc only need a point, best to ignore that ..
I still have nightmares of 1989 when Lfc having won the Cup (the emotional year of the 96!)
an extended season (due to Hillsborough) meant Liverpool's late home fixture was late and a night game at Anfield, with a 2 goal difference advantage, the gooners turned up distributing flowers to the Anfield crowd, a point would do, but a 0-2 loss meant the title went to Highbury,

with the last kick of the game... its not as dramatic, but for me the REds need to think that they need to win, and go for it from minute 1...
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MSmedia> 

Liverpool will secure Champions League football for another season if they beat Brighton on Sunday and should be at full strength with the Champions League final still a couple of weeks away. 
Bobby has 27 goals in all competitions this season and is more than capable of adding to that tally here.
Liverpool won't want to risk having to beat Real Madrid to seal Champions League football next season and the cards are firmly in their hands here. Sadio Mane, Mo Salah and Firmino could well start and they have been magical this season, terrorising the best defences.
although Brighton, have had a terrific debut season in the Premier League and have shown that they are capable of finding the net against the best teams.
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apart from an annoying interviewer who IMO seems to expect explanations of emotions.. (Carra ; stop SHOUTING!! ha ha )  but this is nice.. (JAR "how did you score that goal' from the away support!) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzbNfugM3l0  post match interviews with players in front of the away support in Rome, post match!


@RedAlieNeT fair point, go to the meeting, anyway, cant see why fsg billionaire backers cant a) organise charter flights to Kiev (at cost) and b) suspend ticket payments, delay a couple of months! Lfc rich, with all the extra european income, net profit from Phil, etc! #censoRED


Before you read this,  

read THIS '  
/2018/05/rednet-update-consistently.html

and This ; 
/2018/04/reds-now-get-stoked-up-do-it-roma.

&
/2018/05/rebtv-fantasy-not-fake-to-kiev-

REdTV .. intro ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBjKU9rlY_g

and if you DARE to care;
/2014/05/maydays-fu-freedom-e-union-team.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU
Imagine,,,,,
stopping your ADDiction to a system that is killing you?
why is this so hard for you to imagine?
stop feeding the POISON ..
that....

Pollutes the air... land,,, water (& seas) with oil & chemicals
waste & nuclear rubbish....

Teaches your children FEAR & GREED....and blames the "others" (religious , business or political "enemy" )
Would rather BUILD and sell MORE weapons (WMD) that ensure food is evenly distributed worldwide and ensure an estimated 25,000 kids die DAILY..?
____________________________
INSTEAD of paying their "tax"
give it to a local charity, support the creativity of your kids
REFUSE to fund war, and give migrants & refugees the chance to RENOVATE the thousands of abandoned factories and houses all over europe that they could live in.
ENJOY your fellow human Being from another culture , EXCHANGE IDEAS, make a global community so that you never fear , as we are ALL "children of immigrants or "foreigners" if you go back in history far enough...
GROW your own community farms , instead of importing,..
Encourage the older members of your life, to explain their experience to your children, you dont need "school rules"
(and USE . not abuse , the INTERNET)

its a start to wean you off of your "ADDICTION" isnt it"
CRS170509


8 may
victory days east & west
commemorate all those who fought against the fascists before during, and after WW2, i am sure my parents generation would not believe, nor accept that the world, and especially europe has to fear another right wing uprising,
true socialism means sharing and caring with your fellow HUMAN BEing! 
REdNET May 8, 2018 at 1:20 AM

PLAN B - Right on?












Montenegro  May 2018

 have written more about the game you should have heard me in walton breck road, when (as I am an exiled Red based in the Balkans )  whenMane thumped in the opening goal in rome ..because, i had said and even believed that an early goal for LIVERPOOL killed the game, however the "cavalier" aspects of this squad , never fail to amaze me, as much as JK seems to ride his luck... its "brave" .. but not intelligent..

...how many times has this team been coasting and let teams back into it, the "robin hood" joke is too close to the truth for my taste... I cant say I enjoyed the game,,.(the eventual result, yes...) the first half perhaps the freak goal by Milly (OG) made me smile, as if fate was also making the tie "interesting" (as in the first game when Milly was adjudged to have handled ...a punishment apparently ignored in the premiere league when Lfc are attacking...) and at the end .. CL linesmen should lend their specs to the EPL ones when Lfc attack..?
;)

I really hope Milly, for one gets a winners medal , whilst rightly so many applaud the "Fab 3" he worked his socks off , especially in these games against citeh and aroma...

and Mane, reminded me of a modern day Peter Thompson, who used to entertain the Anfield crowd by beating defenders , then going back and beating them again with incredible dribbling.. mind you "duracell Robbo: did a few of those too in the first half.,..and yet..

looked at the Tv close up of the faces of Firmino &co.. they were spent after an hour.. thats why i cant yet call JK a "great manager" (sorry Stevie, not can i back up your opinion of the USAcorp infestors who allowed Phil to leave in january) ...

He is arguably an excellent coach, motivator, but must win a major trophy, IMO., to be in the :world class: status, and instill , or allow the players to "possess" the ball when well in front...sure its exciting, but arguably I dont need a heart attack experience... :) ..espcially when they only had 11 "regulars" to see this tie out..?

sure , the next days after , in calm i  look forward to the final.. in a way ..but also not knowing if Lfc "will be ready" ..i have hope in my heart , always... but please a little more sun, and less "wind & rain"
for
congrats lads , all the same.. well done (!) shame you had another big game on sunday, at the rent blues... because you deserve a "few ribenas" (Milly).. and for Trent .. a sherbert































i80505 , More ... MFN (mommy-fecker news)
merseyside-police-praise-respectful-liverpool-
Sean cox...still in coma... attacked by roman ultras outside the "Albert"..
police-issue-condition-update-liverpool-
this is not the LIVERPOOL of my youth, all were accepted , even more than that, welcomed. this is the result of your selfish society and fascist government policies... /i-dont-know-ill-stay-14617729
the "ultras" culture has no place in core support of Liverpool, we made the KOP world famous...25,000 socialists... not the scum fascist right-wing , neo nazi "ultra-non-culture"... https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/introducing-fedayn-stab-happy-belt-12460647

and now for something completely different ; OUR REbTV media.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBjKU9rlY_g





















having a limit of just 11 fit "regulars" is meaning the pressure is on those to do the job and stay fit for the remainder.. the bench , for me, underlines the january mis-management of letting Phil, and less so but perhaps unwisely Studge & Grujic go, especially as in November JK insisted it wouldnt happen that way... big deal Lfc get a record fee for Coutinho , but what price the chance of a champions league trophy number 6? or (as Lfc play (ed)at chelski sunday, that they are so stretched they get caught for next seasons campaign..

IMO the chance of a major trophy for Supporters especially , is massive, never mind the glory hunters on & off the field that will want to climb on board if RM are vaquished on the 26th May.. Lfc owe Studge nothing, he was been renovated and repaired sufficient times by Lfc that his world cup aims, for me are secondary to his employers needs (as with Phil & Barca) ... i would have been more confident of seeing out , not only the quarter & semi final ties (impacting the last half hour) instead of a youthful Solanke, or workmanlike, but unconvincing Ings. i am not the only one who would rather see JK send on fresh quality to keep opposing defences stretched than a couple of defenders (although replacing Trent with Clyne wednesday night made more sense) ... Quality sides, chelski, citeh and roma and even relegation candidates have obviously taken the initiative thrown down when Lfc "defend the lead" in the closing 30/20/15 minutes...

................. ............Having said all that , the (almost) perfect compact game was at Porto 0-5 .. if the team can repeat that game v RM in Kiev I truly believe the result could suprise even the most seasoned supporter, (and pundit) so ...50,000 Reds with or without tickets in Kiev (by the way last time I was there vodka / champagne cost only 1 dollar per litre bottle...) despite the expense.. .. it could be a "home game atmosphere" that the "royal white" will hate... and pump adrenalin into Liverpools "ready" players... I fancied Lfc to make the final , since December, as I did ALSO in 2007... dont disappoint lads, take a clever point (or 3) at Stamford bridge.. and dream...

CRS (#censoRED) ;) answering /liverpool-vs-real-madrid-will-bring-excitement-goals-at-both-ends-uefa-champions-league-final(TAW)






















ChriS-EuRED
@EuRED09
Replying to @theliverpoolway

@RedAlieNeT I was talking with a former international pro ref yesterday, who was amazed that De Rossi didnt get AT LEAST carded early on for a nasty one on MO, & just afterwards Mane got pushed over from behind in their pen area (remember blues pen against Lfc?) #censoRED























dont think Jk instilled belief that it will happen, its been a jekyll & hyde squad.. nervous fans have said some "unkind words" when he attempte to defend a lead ,and it collapses, however what is sure , if Lfc can keep a compact shape, and play at their best (no further injuries please..) Lfc might yet blow away the arrogant ronaldo & the royal whites.. losing at home to RM 0-3 was one of the worst european nights I can remember.. do em! 






















quite rightly the Fab 3 and recently Ox justifiably have been the focus of praise, but the article missed a vital point, for me the main man, and NOT a 20 something was/is James MIlner..Milly.. in perhaps his last season as a “first teamer” likely to be up against fresh blood next season, is really making the most of each game .. i thought he did a sound job at LB last season.. and a solid pen taker .. but this “kid” of 32 ? has been everywhere in these vital quater & semi final games… go on , enjoy your Ribenas! you deserve much more …oh and a point for those who yearn for a star-studded midfield…and yes I still blame mis-management for Phil and Studge leaving the squad in january (both would have given some comfort in these latter stages .. to link up between defence and THE attack,, to harry, hound, taclle and organise… that Wijnaldum has somehow equallled Ox in his game added to the efforts of Hendo & milly is more than commendable.. in these days of social network bias towards to :talent” up front.. the big IF…

IF Lfc can be as compact as they were at Porto (0-5) and with a RED army making the Kiev stadium feel like home, this team can blow away the arrogance of ronaldo & the royal whites , get rid of Mad..! https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2018/05/roma-4-6-liverpool-2-7-match-review/#comment-68258
























More... " MFFoN" mommy fecker fake? or news...

@RedAlieNeT @harveytuttle will read it again later, there is a hole in your claim. USAcorp infest OUR club, a decade of it, last January , when not only Phil, but Stuidge & Marko left the squad, wednesday night was a reminder, & keeping Rafa was better, Lfc are back where he was
klopp-brought-joy-back-liverpool-
Dion Fanning
Verified account @dionfanning
Did something on Jurgen Klopp and shaking off the past -
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Media Lens
@medialens

Media Lens Retweeted Garry Egan

Indeed, as we've been discussing for many, many years.

Media Lens added,
Garry Egan
@gazzahead
Grozny ! ... the US has removed several cities off the face of the earth since Grozny https://twitter.com/medialens/status/992739853958893573
2:47 PM - 5 May 2018
ChriS-EuRED Tweet text
@EuRED09
Replying to @medialens

@harveytuttle and there it is, too many articles, too many conferences, too many opinions and discussions.. make a positive action, be consequent, without violence, but remove their power by refusal to pay govt who kill, boycott the businesses who profit, BE or not to BE? #censoRED

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whilst the sh&te goes on & on... the sheeple look on...!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/missiles-hit-military-bases-26-people-dead-earthquake-recorded_2509908.html

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"AGe-ism" is as big a violation as racism or gender bias... (check the UDR 1948 artciles) ... and this is a violation that you all are part of every day, as ageism treats seniors as 3rd class... or less. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/She-modeled-in-New-York-and-worked-for-the-Navy-12877737.php

&

why would the USAcorp sheeple be scared of china,,they are your business partners and just as corrupt and fecked up as you all are!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-04/here-s-what-u-s-demanded-of-china-at-the-start-of-trade-talks
#ameriCANTS


,,,,&
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions/ex-volkswagen-ceo-winterkorn-charged-in-u-s-over-diesel-scandal-idUSKBN1I42I3
....
and just how fecked up are you when so-called democrats v so-called Unions?... its all fake & faked up! the american nightmare continues...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-unions-insight/democrats-target-union-workers-who-regret-trump-vote-idUSKBN1I5181

&
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-abbas/palestinian-leader-abbas-offers-apology-for-remarks-on-jews-idUSKBN1I5131
this ...ok? but does anyone apologise for the murders of kids & demonstrators by Israeli forces?

more BS..

the fecking morons of this planet fill it with concrete for more mchines to pollute the atmosphere.. and ignore using rivers and stop building canals which is more benefiicial for environment and your kids future,,, humans are a waste of space?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/should-supply-and-demand-determine-the-price-for-a-fast-commute-1525426200


but we are not , nor fake... @ http://unsubtolosi-rednet.blogspot.com/2018/05/rebtv-fantasy-not-fake-to-kiev-with.html 
































you stole ... from my blog..
this seems incredible to you... but...
MY generation saw a club built by Shanks that would have lasted forever haD IT NOT BEEN for commercial sharks... Bob continueed and from 76 until heysell a dream of FOUR times european champions and domestic champions almost every season... you cant tough it... "full thottle" is fun... but our REd teams could go through all the gears, at will.! 






















feel that this game should have been played down , not made important.. for me, going to the final in Kiev overshadows everything else.. so what! ?? this is what you play for, to get trophies, not to be a northern arsenal , "qualifying" (until they dont) to risk the thin 11 "regulars" v stoke & chelski ?? madness! ...if Jk truly believes , as I do, that Lfc can go for the league next season, then also accept that being in the final now is more important than being in it next season... the LEAGUE is, after 26th May, the "holy grail" soon it will be THIRTY years since.. are having that? and as we saw again..not even run-away champions can compete in both EPL and CL!...

as for the game, feel all the attention, on & off the field taking its toll on Mo, however, the positives for Mane is getting more of the ball and more space to perform. would have been surprised if Lfc went full throttle after wed. played early part of game as they shd have late on wedn!

chelsk 1 Lfc 0

Giroud, of course , he was often a scorer against Lfc when playing for arse nal... too much attentgion in recent games given to stopping Mo ...V Stoke @ rome and in this game.. gave more space for Mane, who is showing some of his previous form, I cant see how Firmino was started , as he looked shattered wednesday night after an hour... Clyne came in at RB ..but too many of his passes are negative, Trent is not as sound defensively but maintains the forward rhythm,... ironic that Lfc started the game sunday as they SHOULD have finished on wednesday, in control, keep ball & possession footy?.

.. Robbo wasnt his usual self, allowed Moses (x Lfc ta BR) to cross, ..got forward only a couple of time, then made an impact, battery needs re-charge,, Trent a bit lost in Midfield, Wijn looked good .. draw would have been deserved.. but..i hate Hazard, little fecking diver...Milly got a knock early, but still managed a decent shift,..hendo brought some energy when he came on, and Solanke really needs match fitness , unlikely to get it...close to scoring an equalizing header late on..
2018/05/chelsea-v-liverpool-the-big-match-preview/#comment-68323































    ha ha Neils fan club? dont like Fergie, but wont wish him bad now.. Wenger ... respect for anyone who doesnt fall into the "modern coach" mode... but also settled into the "also ran" comfort that pleases accountants but infuriates supporters who expect more (and so we should!) ...not relevant to this result..

    Sorry Fergie, but  Informed that you are recovering..!!


    this game should have been played down , not made important.. for me, going to the final in Kiev overshadows everything else.. so what! ?? this is what you play for, to get trophies, not to be a northern arsenal , "qualifying" (until they dont) to risk the thin 11 "regulars" v stoke & chelski ?? madness! ...if Jk truly believes , as I do, that Lfc can go for the league next season, then also accept that being in the final now is more important than being in CL next season...

    the LEAGUE is, after 26th May, the "holy grail" soon it will be THIRTY years since.. are you having that? and as we saw again..not even run-away champions can compete in both EPL and CL!...

    as for the game, feel all the attention, on & off the field taking its toll on Mo, however, the positives for Mane is getting more of the ball and more space to perform. would have been surprised if Lfc went full throttle after wed. played early part of game as they shd have late on wednesday!
    so much attention in recent games given to stopping Mo ...V Stoke @ rome and in this game.. gave more space for Mane, who is showing some of his previous form, I cant see how Firmino was started , as he looked shattered wednesday night after an hour... Clyne came in at RB ..but too many of his passes are negative, Trent is not as sound defensively but maintains the forward rhythm,... ironic that Lfc started the game sunday as they SHOULD have finished on wednesday, in control, keep ball & possession footy... and for me, it would have been a "welcome surprise" had Lfc got a win,. ...probably "desreved" a point, but the rent blues arguably needed and wanted it more..

    I will Take Rafa to help out next weekend, if need be, but , cant compare this with the WBA or Stoke games due to the distraction of the semis.... ... and... after a weeks rest and reccuperation,, if the team cant beat Brighton, then ... arguably dont dseerve to "qualify" via 4th... after all ...remember how "05 was won?



    IF i was JK, i would say " lads , next saturday v brighton, imagine you in the final in Kiev, against RM, and use it to get it right... blow brighton away, and put the sh&te up RM ... !" ...eh?
    ;)


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    on behalf of the " cynics " that you conveniently group together (and I recall the animosity you have towards Tony Evans) .. i am not convinced by your article or intentions..
    Like Tony I am from a generation with clearer memories than you.. (us lucky Shankly boys)



    I would agree that out dynasty was spoiled by english hooligan fans , of the type you mention , who jumped on the Lfc bandwagon as we were winning 4 european titles... ..

    All 4 finals had identity, none more so than against Roma in THEIR stadium.. (very few have mentioned how Dundee were cheated out of playing v Lfc due to recorded bribery by the Roma president of their semi final referee back in 1984)
    .. have you spoken to any of the fans who were stoned after Lfc victory ..? ..
    ...
    Much has been stated about Heysel, a night when I almost gave up on footy, never mind Lfc.. add bad feeling to the pot, because of men , women and kids were hurt on those support buses stoned by romans... and the mess that was Heysel stadium, the carelessness of UEFA and Heysel officials.. and it was easy for them to blame Lfc support....

    and then only 4 years later , Hillsborough, and again 'WE" were targetted , as the sole cause...

    I have given half a century of my life to supporting what was our club, prior to :USA corp: & their shark infested boardoom...
    WE ( my generation of Kopites, home or away) had no connection with england fans.. most of us want the english clubs defeated by whoever.. please dont P*ss down my back and tell me its raining ! ...

    sure mainstream media want headlines... italian media had their agenda, and dont think that the Roma management were opposing it, to take the spotlight of their ultras ! ..

    I have participated in "friendship meetings" (such as with Gladback fans) I have organised many multi cultural fans events & friendlyt tournaments all over europe.. I support youth footy where i live now, having been based abroad more than half my life, i used to come back for games , but i wont put another cent in JWH's pocke...

    .. the point being , yoiu dont have to live in 'pool to feel the animosity that followed the events in 80's ..far too many ill-informed people had a negative comments when meeting me , wearing a >REd shirt watching the game in a some pub or other.. i'd give them my t-shirt or a scarf ... there are scarves hanging up in all sorts of remote bars around europe... ;)

    You seem to praise the friendship group from 1984, did they stop or hinder attacks then or in 2001 against our supporters? and a medal from Angelo for TAW "ambassadors" ...? if Angelo had organised a meet with romas ultra leaders , then I'd be impressed, because its selfish just to think of Lfc... maybe the publicity reduced danger this time... but what about the next time, because it happens a lot ...

    This "well meaning " gesture seems nice , but it reminds me of a UN discussion on Syria... lots of talk , lots of diplomacy, but feck all changes , in reality ,unless its applied tro the people who cause the problem,
    needs courageous action, and consequence, applied , for the better...
    good luck with that, GR,
    because we seem fated to disagree on just above everything...
    with hope...
    CRS
    answering;
    https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2018/05/liverpool-and-as-roma-divided-by-history-united-in-supporting-sean-cox/

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    madRID ;  Route to the final

    Qualified: holders
    Group H runners-up
    Round of 16: 5-2 agg v Paris
    Quarter-finals: 4-3 agg v Juventus
    Semi-finals: 4-3 agg v Bayern

    LIVERPOOL 


    Pedigree
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    European Cup finals: W5 L2
    Last appearance: 2007, lost 2-1 v Milan
    This season 
    Entry: play-offs
    P12 W7 D4 L1 F40 A13
    Top scorer: Firmino, Salah (10)
    Current league position: 3rd










    Watch Salah's delightful chip against Man. City
    Watch Salah's delightful chip against Man. City
    Possible first-choice XI: Karius; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson; Wijnaldum, Henderson, Milner; Salah, Firmino, Mané
    Route to the final
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    Play-offs: 6-3 agg v Hoffenheim
     



    Group E winners 
    Round of 16: 5-0 agg v Porto








    Quarter-finals: 5-1 agg 

    v Man. City


    Semi-finals 7-5 agg v Roma  
    (UEFA didnt count the Pen ha ha?)









    Have they met before?



    Previous meetings: 5
    Madrid wins: 2 (4 goals) 
    Liverpool wins: 3 (6 goals)
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    Watch Madrid and Liverpool's previous meetings
    2014/15 UEFA Champions League group stage
    Matchday three: Liverpool 0-3 Real Madrid (Ronaldo 23, Benzema 30 41)
    Matchday four: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool (Benzema 27)
    2008/09 UEFA Champions League first knockout round
    First leg: Real Madrid 0-1 Liverpool (Benayoun 82)
    Second leg: Liverpool 4-0 Real Madrid (Torres 16, Gerrard 28 47, Dossena 88)


    1980/81 European Cup final
    Liverpool 1-0 Real Madrid (Kennedy 81)

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    ...I dream of her breast , as hard as a pebble..
    ..and her loins ..oh so vital...
    BUT MOST OF ALL...I DREAM OF THE TITLE ... "
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