RedNet Updated... (post sunderland 0 Lfc 1) the Gerrard show , cut in half!!!

sund 0 Liverpool 1
Stevie was everywhere in the first half,... "old" ___???? 

..dont make me laugh  

he has more energy than the kids...... 

Team played well but should have been 2 or 3 goals ahead before half time,
referee and linesmen were terrible, 

Marko was better, and took his goal well. but deserved a pen in thefirst minutes,which the biased ( or blind?) ref ignored..

BR mistakenly took SG off at H-T for Lovren, 

that gave more impetus to the homers...

and sunderland pushed harder in the 2nd half when Stevie was no longer dominating the game

(a touch map at H-T showed Gerrard was everywhere, exactly as I like him to play , free..) 

his free kick was perfect and sunderlands goalie did well to stop Stevie scoring again

2 other shots were close, he got into the positions to cause damage to Sund. 

Coutinho again looked on form, apart from a ridiculous yellow, Hendo also put himself about,
just lack the extra class.  enjoyable to watch first half, 2nd half nervous as 1 goal against meant we could have dropped the points to a late scramble from the homers..
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/match-report/313594/sunderland-0-liverpool-1 (dont like this report but...that yr media!!) 
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/178054-tunnel-gesture-said-it-all-about-gerrard nice to see SG at the tunnel congratulating the time, he just must NOT leave (see link http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2015/01/an-open-k.html__)

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LIFE without Zan kers and fan nies ? ;) 

an OPen "K.I.S.S" for Steven Gerrard - 

K eep It S imple Stevie..

Reasons to stay...

these links 
... rednet-alien.blogspot.com/2015/01/steven-is-leaving-its-time-for-me-too.html
....
http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2015/01/its-not-fa-cup-its-henry-f-up-and.html


K eep your base here (in Europe) and FIGHT for the supporters, like we (true REdS) did support YOU!

...the U S of A is false,  a crumbling empire built on violence and corruption, past its shelf life, the "american dream"
became the  "Worlds nightmare" commercialism has not only fed off the greed of people, its COMPLICATED LIFE and OUR sports....and the beautiful game

they took a kiddies game , simple like "rounders" and made it the "WORLD" series of baseball (even though the yan kers are the only ones who play it) ha!
wrestling has been made into "TV theatre" .. even kids know that its just "show",  rugby into "American football" ..even though they dont kick it (often!)
where the players have more "kit" than the man who *(!) walked on the moon! ..

and then there is "the beautiful game..

I t WAS SIMPLE..as Shanks would tell you, and goodness me, would he have RIPPED anyone apart who spread the BS of the premiership in his company!
there are 2 goals, 2 teams, and the team who scores the most goals wins, you attack as a team, you defend as a team, and pass the ball to the lad wearing the same, shirt, unless you are in a better position to score..

Pundits, experts, coaches, agents, advisers, medical attendants, and the army of guys that hang around Anfield and Melwood, wrapping you in cotton wool, have spoil you
modern players and ruined the gamer too, along with the commercialism of Murderochs "SLY TV" (shame on you, Carra!) ..who dictate the times when
WE who give most of our lives to supporting are "Allowed" to watch the teams WE SUpport, dont matter to the business end of the clubs, the media
or the league if We are stranded after public transport or economy travel has gone, Yes I am one of those who has left on the floor of a mates hotel room, or a in bus station, train station  or airport lobby floor! the Yan kers didnt INVEST, they take, and they INFEST our beautiful game...
with the "greed is good" gecko mantra that is dead, wall street collapsed along with the titanic, but they are fecking clever at hiding the truth.

and keeping the "working class heroes" OUT of the picture.. 

S occer is their name, FOOTY is OUR GAME, as kids we only wanted a ball, and then we were made up, and would play from breakfast time until after dark, in back yards, school playgrounds (*with a tennis ball i kept in my pocket) now kids (thanks to the capitalist "victory" ) watch too much TV, play xbox, or other video games, eat big macs, get fat and never kick a ball around with their mates in the back field (which has probably been sold for some extra car parking for the hypermarket or whatever) YOU have the image that can bring back this feeling to kids and the enjoyment that "working class" people have, stay and fight...

S tay and fight.... Stevie, you say that maybe BR would have been able to win trophies with you had he been with you TEN years ago,

well IMO, ONLY, if he had been young enough to learn Shanks "Liverpool way" and be consistent with his beliefs, passing backwards & sideways is fine when you want to take the "sting" out of opponents or the their fans, to quiet down an away stadium, fine, but good teams mix it up.

sometimes route one (via one of your passes, I can never forget when you hit a pass from our pen area to Boltons, at Anfield, and he just 
had to dink it ovber their keeper.."just" ha ...) 

I want them (the "infestors") GONE... WE ARE THE CLUB, 45 players brought in during F S G, and maybe 2 or 3 can be considered "regular first teamers"

they dont KNOW footy, advance ticket sales, corporate hospitality, 3 new kits every summer for little johnny, the U S A sponsors who like Henry & f s g have no relation with our support, just here to make cash, which they have WASTED via the "committee" a Supporters partnership, with the community of Liverpool, ex players, and the many celeb fans and over THIRTY million registered on the net

and thanks for the wonderful moments you have given me, and continue to do  million registered Lfc fans worldwide, can puch them out, but stay and DO IT,

with a KISS...
K . I . S. S.  

Keep IT SIMPLE Stevie...!

ChRiS SMITH
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.. rednet-alien.blogspot.com/2015/01/steven-is-leaving-its-time-for-me-too.html
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http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2015/01/its-not-fa-cup-its-henry-f-up-and.html

Steven Gerrard: The full interview

A day on from announcing he will leave Liverpool Football Club at the end of the 2014-15 season, Steven Gerrard has explained fully the reasons behind his decision in an emotional interview.

Speaking at Melwood on Saturday morning, 24 hours on from the news being confirmed on this website, the captain outlined his thinking in deciding to leave the Reds after 17 years.

Gerrard describes the feelings he experienced when reaching the decision and how it has impacted him on an emotive level.

The 34-year-old also confirms his next destination will be to Major League Soccer in the United States this summer, although a deal with a club in America has yet to be finalised.

The interview was broadcast for the first time on Saturday evening on LFCTV and LFCTV GO - and we've produced a transcript of it in its entirety for you to read below...

A day on from the announcement confirming that you will leave Liverpool Football Club in the summer, how do you feel?

A bit strange. I'm not going to lie, it's been an emotional 24 hours for myself and my family, but there are still six months to go and I've still got plenty to try to achieve, so I am trying to keep my focus on that. There'll be plenty of time for tears and sentiment come the end of the season. It's been a tough 24 hours and I've had to do some tough things that I'd never really thought of doing for a long, long time. Now that it's real, it's a bit of a strange feeling.

What goes through your mind when making a huge decision like that?

I think first and foremost, I always have to put my family first - and then I also think about myself and the club as one, really. I had to make a tough decision about what's best for all concerned. The reality is I am going to be 35 in the summer. I've been here for a long time, I've been coming to this training ground since I was eight years of age. I always knew it was going to end one day and that it was going to be an emotional decision. That decision is here. People will have their own opinions on it, but for me I think come the summer it will be the right time to move on and try something different - come out of the club and the city and have a look in for a short while, and hopefully have the opportunity to return.

Was there a particular moment that made your mind up, that you thought 'this is what I am going to do'?

Yes. There was more than one moment that has made me come to this decision, but I think the key conversation or moment was with the manager when he sat me down not so long ago and said it was time to manage my games for me and for the team. I'm bright enough to realise it is the right thing for everyone, but when you've been a starter and a mainstay in the team for such a long time, it was a very difficult conversation to have with the manager. I accept it and I'll continue to give everything I've got, whether I'm starting, coming off the bench or whatever, but that was the key conversation that swung me to deciding to come away for a short while.

Was it a harsh realisation, or did you know that was coming?

I had an idea it was going to come at some time - I'm a human, not a robot. I'm not 24. I wish I was 24, I wish I'd met Brendan when I was 24 because I think I'd be sitting here talking about a lot of titles that we'd won together. The reality is, Brendan came into this club when I was 32 years of age and it's a shame that relationship didn't start 10 years ago. I had an idea the conversation was going to come at some time, but it was a painful conversation to have and that was the key moment - along with other things over the last six to 12 months, but that was the conversation. That was the key one.

As you said, you've got to consider your family as the No.1 priority, so what was that conversation like with your wife and your young family?

It was tough to tell the girls, even though they're not big football fans. They're more into the girly things in life, but to tell them their dad wasn't going to play for Liverpool anymore still hit them pretty hard. That's when the emotion started in the house, that's when it became tough. At the same time, it's exciting - it's a great opportunity for my family and myself. But yes, it's tough.

But what an incredible adventure you can take your family on...

Yes, of course. The key for me now is to finish the season strongly from a personal point of view and try to achieve something for the team. And try to cheer the fans up - they have had a difficult six months, like the rest of us. I'm focused now and I told the manager a couple of days ago when we had a chat that he's got no worries about me downing tools. I'll be here until the end and keep fighting until the final ball I kick. I'd love nothing better than to try to win a trophy and leave the team in the top four. Looking beyond six months, of course it's going to be an incredible opportunity for me to try something different, because I've lived in Liverpool all of my life and I've never been out. It will be a change but certainly one I'm looking forward to.

You had to tell your teammates as well, a group of men who look up to you so much. What was their reaction?

I think they were a bit shocked yesterday. It was as if the whole club had had some bad news. But I don't want it to be like that. I wanted to do the announcement after the Leicester game because I didn't want it to affect that game. But life goes on, it's normal and we carry on working hard for each other. They know what I think of them but it was also nice for me to see what they think of me as well. That was touching. But we're all men and we've got work to do. The challenge for us now is to keep trying to move forward and I'm sure we will.

I assumed that you'd be quite closed off from the emotion of it, because you've accepted the decision however long ago. But it seems quite raw for you still...

It's raw and it will be from now until the end of the season. The messages of support I've had from the fans, players, staff, media and people who I've worked with for a long time has blown me away. That's when I've started getting emotional. But I need to be strong and hold them back because I'm not going yet and I still see this six months as a very important period for myself and the team. So I need to be strong, keep playing and after the next couple of days I need to just focus on performances.

Have you read much of the reaction?

I can't at the moment. I keep switching the TV over. I'm replying to messages and stuff, but it's tough. I didn't realise it would be as big as this. But I've got to move on. The important people here are the supporters, they are the key to any football club. I'm lucky enough to play in front of the best ones in the world. Some of the things that I've seen already and will probably see in the future, it's tough to move on.

When you are talked about as a Liverpool legend - something you've been described as for a long time - how does that sit with you?

It's very flattering and I'm very humbled by it. To be named in some of the company that I do get named in is brilliant for me and my family because we're all big Reds, we have supported the club for a long time and will continue to do so forever. To be named in the same company as some of the legends and people I look up to is brilliant, especially for my dad and brother.

You're allowed to be emotional about it. This club has been such a massive part of your life, but you've been such a massive part of all of our lives and all the supporters' lives...

It's been a fantastic relationship - so strong. I'm one of the luckiest people in the world to have that.

Steven Gerrard and Liverpool go hand-in-hand. You've said before that you want to come back and serve this football club one day. Was that always your long-term plan regardless of this next move?

I think that's more in hope. I'll only come back and serve the club if I feel as if I can help. I'll always be a fan, of course, no matter what happens in the future. But I think that's something I'll have to consider. I think when you've been part of a club like this for so long and you've contributed in the way I've tried to, I'd always want that to stay the same in the future. I wouldn't like to come back just to be Steven Gerrard the player and just be around. I'd like to help in whatever capacity that may be. If I sit down with the people who are running the club at that time and they see a role for me where I can help the team or help young kids to become players, of course I will consider it because, as you say, it's been such a big part of my life.

I know you've said you don't want to speak too much about where you are going to go. But fans will want to know and everyone will want to know. Have you made your decision?

I appreciate that and that's why I made the announcement now. I didn't want it to drag through January and there to be stories in the papers about 'is he staying, is he coming, is he going there', Brendan facing questions from the media and the players [facing questions]. I don't think that's fair and I've always tried to be respectful to other people. I told the manager as early as I could that it was time to move on. I wanted the announcement out there after the Leicester game because we had a bigger space between Leicester and the Wimbledon game to try to get it out of the way, put it to bed and focus on the other games. I can tell the supporters at the moment that it will be America. I'll be going to play in America. But I'm not over the line with any team just yet. I'm close and as soon as I know, I'll make the announcement, I'll do the bits and bobs that I need to do. Then we try to go and win a trophy and forget about Steven Gerrard for a bit.

I don't think people will be forgetting about you any time soon, Steven. There's an important few months left - plenty to play for. What is the dream scenario?

I think, where I'm sitting at the moment, realistically, we've still got a chance of finishing in the top four and that's the most important thing for the club, for obvious reasons. That would be a great achievement after the start we've made in the league. But from a selfish point of view, it's always a trophy and it's always medals, for me. That's what people remember and that's what the club is all about. It's about success and history. The day you make your debut for this club, the pressure and the responsibility is on your shoulders to keep delivering trophies to add to that wonderful history. I've lived with that for so long and I'll live with it for another six months and try my best to add one or two more.

When you finally pack up your locker here at Melwood and you drive out of those gates for the last time, how do you think you'll feel? Is it possible to anticipate that?

Not at the moment. But I'm sure it will be tough. The last couple of weeks will be probably how the last 24 hours have been - very tough. But I'm really proud of what I've done and hopefully I can write a few more chapters with the team from now to the end. But the last game and the last couple of training sessions are going to be torture, because it's so tough to say 'goodbye'. But hopefully it's more of a 'see you soon' rather than a 'goodbye'.

There is a feeling of tremendous sadness among the supporters. What's your message to them?

It's difficult to give a message - but, I'm feeling the same. There's still a bit to go and I'd love nothing better than to walk around Wembley or a big stadium at the end of the season with a trophy for them

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IF U need to be reminded ..  http://xtra.liverpoolfc.com/listicles/five-reasons-why-steven-gerrard-is-one-of-the-premier-league-s-greatest-ever-players

there is a game on soon, BTW...

http://xtra.liverpoolfc.com/news/9-pre-match-stats-ahead-of-liverpool-fc-s-trip-to-the-stadium-of-light-on-saturday

NO surprise that F ailing S trategy G oes no where when YOU dont know footy???

thanks to    Harvey>  

the mess since f s g took over from the previous frauds (G and H) .. its clear they make cash (for themselves) but dont know football
from t.i.a.

Harvey > Peter, any one with knowledge and intelligence dont like these "clever f s g cowboys" who ARE killing the spirit of OUR CLUB!! I want 30 million RedS to own the club in partnership with LIVERPOOL (community) and celeb fans... http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/.../its-not-fa-cup-its...

http://www.thisisanfield.com/…/fsgs-transfer-strategy-fail…/

Mark Pearson>
FSG’s Transfer Strategy Failure

Opinion

Jan 7, 2015
By Mark Pearson’s reckoning, FSG’s transfer spending has a 91.2% failure rate at Liverpool – and it’s about time they looked at their own results.

“However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results”. – Winston Churchill

(NO) Strategy

45 Players purchased in 4 years.
£352 million spent to acquire those 45 players.
Forgive me, I have positioned these numbers at the top because I want you to stop reading and go back to these stats whenever you may start to get furious with what I am writing, then if you still disagree with me feel free to let me know, I’m sure you might.
When FSG took control of Liverpool FC we were in a pickle off the pitch. No question that in their time here FSG have not only stopped the rot but begun to drag the club out of the 1980s and into the world we all live in every day. Debt is down. Wage bills are down. Revenue is up. Commercial investment is up. Ground expansion is beginning. The half time sausage rolls are better. It’s all good; I’m not saying it isn’t. Anything that makes my beloved Liverpool FC enhanced gets a nod of approval from me.
Where FSG and I fallout with each other is the prolonged and continued disaster in the transfer market and transfer windows, which, in my unassuming opinion, titles and league positions are decided.
FSG have a dream, the dream is that Liverpool should procure the brightest young talent from around the globe and coach them to become the new Cristiano Ronaldo’s, Gareth Bales, Matts Hummels’ or fill in the blank as to who you identify as a player with pedigree that makes a difference on a football pitch. If we coach these bright young talents into superstars and they get snapped up by the Madrid’s, Barcelona’s and Munich’s of the world then we trade them on for huge profit, pluck the next bright young thing, repeat the process.
Sounds great from a high-level like that, so great you wonder why other clubs don’t obsess about it and follow the same blueprint for success…

Reality

I feel at this point if you haven’t already scrolled back up to the top I should repeat here.
45 players purchased in 4 years.
£352 million spent to acquire those 45 players.
Of those 45 signed players how many have become superstars, world beaters, or sold for £millions of profit? Being generous I can think of 2. Suarez and Sturridge. Both a snip, both able to change a game on a regular basis and the former being flogged at a healthy profit. People may come up with further names than me, players they feel are worthy signings, but ask yourself who really wins games for Liverpool match after match that we have procured in the last 4 years like the names I have specified or in the terms of FSG’s “Transfer Strategy”.
If you can find 2 more it’s pretty slim pickings out of 45 players right? That would make a transfer success rate of 8.8%, or another way of looking at it a 91.2% failure rate. Maybe somebody within the transfer committee or board of Directors should look at that and assess those results.

Looking at things from a great height taking our overall spends against the number of players signed it works out to be an average of £7.8 million outlay per player during FSGs tenure. That falls quite neatly into the cost of the following players who were all purchased for around that figure: Sebastian Coates, Charlie Adam, Iago Aspas, Tiago Ilori, Luis Alberto, Jose Enrique, Fabio Borini, Emre Can – there are more, but you get the picture. No standout players there, no match winners, no huge profit to be made.

Taking this summer alone, £117 million spent on 10 players, that’s an average of £11.7 million per player. Any of this summer’s recruits bucking the trend from the above? Not so far.

Change

We were led to believe that we couldn’t attract the top players because we had no Champions League to offer. This summer we did. So how come the transfer strategy didn’t change? Who would have rather Liverpool spent £117 million on 3 or 4 world beaters than on 10 with potential? Look down the road at Old Trafford and see what pushing the boat out on top draw players does for a team.
This beautiful (NO) strategy isn’t, hasn’t, and won’t work. Some will blame Rodgers for wasting money, others Dalglish before him, I’m sure the next manager would get the same bashing. The common denominator here is the owners and there preconceived ideas of what players we should be buying. Make no mistake, Rodgers has a remit, a strategy to follow in transfers and wage structure and it’s failing.

Chelsea pay big wages, Man City, Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich all follow suit, and guess what, they win things as a result. They qualify for the Champions League year after year, and guess what, that Champions League money is used to offset the big wages, most still make a profit too (success and profit tend to go hand in hand in the business world).
So this January I am not expecting anything different. The result of which will no doubt leave us once more outside of the top four come May. Then we will be back to the story of no Champions League to attract the top players.

This summer Liverpool had a chance to look at the beautiful strategy, and the results, and to change the path, to grow the club on the field like they have off it. They refused, the chance has gone.

Harvey> -f s g ...please Talk to me and do a deal to let the Supporters and 30 million worldwide fans together with community of Liverpool take over the club, (employing professional managers that keep the original spirit that I fell in love with! ,,and then get henry and co .. the F&&& out of our way! as u dont know our culture or the game...

its not the FA Cup, its a Henry F*** up! and an Insult to Stevie and OUR SUPPORT

=====SCLOG .....campaign v henry & f s g (cont)

f.s.g. did nt...

its not the FA Cup, its a Henry F*** up! and an Insult to Stevie and OUR SUPPORT

To many "excuses" .. the Chang (f s g employee who threatened fans) incident, the absence of Henry from memorials (until he was "reminded")
 removal of Kenny (mid contract) ignoring (unemployed) Rafa , who was living in Liverpool...
(also forced out mid-contract) 
....the fan nies who think thaT player has to be a virtual teenie to play in the Premiereship..helped the PREVIOUS frauds G & H ..!
they talk about "betrayal" but Danny Agger was Loyal, and what did they do? They even done a deal with Napoli over Pepe (10 times
better than the "young Mignolet") without discussing it with a player who loved our club and who was a great defender and
the best goalie-distributor I have ever seen (he was part of the TEam!)

There is no proof that Henry & F S G made the payment in cash for "aquisition" of the business called "Lfc"
they even wanted to "patent" OUR LIVERBIRD... (the symbol of OUR people!) we made the club through our special
support, prompted by the holy trinity that Shanks created, damaged by Moores and Parry and destroyed by a disaster chaim..
through G & H, Hodgson, to f s g  and their dismal "committee" who have failed to sign ONE "first team regular" out of
arounf THIRTY SIGNINGS!!! since Henry & co..  "INFESTED" in Lfc...

I am not interested in our current results, the departure of Steven Gerrard is BIGGER than anything ,      yes, 

there ARE times, when ONE is bigger than the club, especially when OUR CLUB is run (into the ground)

by SMALL minded mentality...

you should read this ... (if your attention span is more than 10 seconds!) 
http://rednet-alien.blogspot.com/2015/01/steven-is-leaving-its-time-for-me-too.html

REdNET bootroom Opinion

Wayne > ye not to shabby m8, recovering from the festivities that seem never ending lol  
3 January 

Harvey> http://rednet-alien.blogspot.com/.../steven-is-leaving...

REdNET: Steven is leaving , its time for me too, cant support "them" anymore
rednet-alien.blogspot.com (By REdNET)

5 January 
Keith Bishop > Liverpool don't want supporters that only support a particular player!

CS> the question is who is "Liverpool" ..WE are LIVERPOOL, not you, and yr limited opinion (as u didnt even read the comments
properly) WE are the club, and perhaps we dont want YOU!

Kenneth Geraghty > dont think he means it keith just think the guy is hurting over stevie

Keith Bishop >Think it's taking it too far, we're all suffering, but some of us just realise it's best for the club! 
Carragher could have gone on for another year, but didn't want to be on the bench and retired, 
Gerrard couldn't do that, so let him go, he deserves our support in what he does now! 
Fans need to realise this was Gerrard's plan to leave, the club didn't push him out!

CS> WE are the club, and we would have given SG a new contract (who, btw just scored 4 goals in 2 matches!) and..
with respect to Carra, he isnt Stevie G!!! ..and the club may not have forced him out , but they didnt do much to keep him,
did they????

Harvey > they didnt do enough to keep him... he shd have been offered a contract last summer, our club captain, a legend, was left hanging...f s g dont have the loyalty that they expect from fa-cup-a-review-of...
Gerrard leads from the front

A review of Mondays FA Cup third-round action as Liverpool beat AFC Wimbledon, 
...http://www.sportinglife.com/football/fa-cup/news/article/222/9633765/fa-cup-a-review-of-mondays-third-round-action

Harvey > Keith & Kenneth the writer ("REdNET" if u read it through) stood on the Kop in Shanks days, has seen it all, 
supported Lfc in wind and rain, at home, domestic and european aways .. in good and bad times, 
like most of us who give so much to this club, seen Shanks, Joe, and good men Like Rafa, Kenny , Rudolfo , Pepe, Agger,
 leave, and when Stevie who rarely says anything , admis that had he been given a summer contract he would have stayed, 
again proved his value monday night (and embarassed BR)
... fans need to wake up and stand up (again( as we did v G ^ H!!! ???   

Andy Joe Smyth>
Liverpool football club caught out in lies.
The club is not the same.
I will be stopping my support for this club after Stevie Gerrard leaves.
 And wont support the club again until that wanker Rogers fucks off.
40 years a red. But the way the club is going is a disgrace and I can't understand the thinking.

Tanveer> He is not a gerrard supporter Jake, he started supporting even before gerrard was born. 
When supporters like these loose trust, there is definitely something very wrong going on with the club

Stephen Evans >You don't just stop supporting a team cos a player leaves Andy.
don't get me wrong I love Gerrard but what doesn't he get he's played 19 started 17 an bin a sub twice he plays all the time.
hes just spat his dummy out big time.
i mean the club may have other things to worry about 
an has he ever thought that cos he is so called Mr Liverpool they didn't think he would p@ss off.
He should have just signed an stayed an got over it an put your dummy back in.
An what makes him think he can play there the with heat the travelling the different climates time zones?

Jake Cox (!)> but "supporting" a club means though thick and thin

Jonathan Hartnett > True mate. Andy we don't need your support.
  
Tanveer > No one is complaining about loosing , if you mean thin by it . The way the club is acting. 
Seems like people running the club don't really care about the fan's anymore

David Ynwa Tinsley > well bye bye then plastic

Andy > @Luke Molyneux at least spell my name right.To say I'm not a true supporter. That is your opinion, and your entitled to that.
    But one that I am is true to myself. And Steven Gerrard gave his all and turned down several big Clubs to stay at Liverpool.
    And this is how he gets treated.
    I think he has every right to make the fans clear that the club isn't being run to the way it should be.
    Liverpool football Club has being built on honor and integrity.
    and with the most understanding and loyal fans in the world. This situation should have been dealt with better.
    But Rogers has no class. And since he has come in the club has made too many bad decisions wrong and bought too many players that would never suit our style of play.
    And to say I'm not a true fan you are a disgrace your only a pup.
    I have had a season ticket for too many years to be called that.
    
Bernie Maginn > Off you pop back to Woodison then.
   
Andy > Clearly there's alot of chavs on here that would need more schooling. David Ynwa Tinsley (Prick).
   
David Ynwa Tinsley> Gerrard hasnt been treated bad...hes not been forced out...
hes going for more games than any top clubs can offer to a league thats easier on his fitness so he can play longer......
ur just a plastic fan....liverpool is bigger than one player idiot
no real fan says "oh im not supporting them no more"....support is for life no matter the ups and downs

Andy Gill > Less of the plastic fans etc ppl. Everyones entitled to their opinion and fans are hurting
....As for lfc. If we were in the conferance league id still support. A true fan will stick with their club no matter what.ynwa

Ricky Lfc Hall ? Love SG, but love Liverpool more....

Luke Molyneux > Andy Joe Smyth u sure u nt been on drugs 
just cz gerrard is leaveing dnt meen u should stop suporting n bad name chavs is nt good either 
yep am a chav but got 2kids n do good job just cz I am a chav dnt make me scum uno

David Ynwa Tinsley > Andy Gill ur last part is basically calling him plastic haha

Nigel Watts > No need to call a fellow fan names or plastic fan .
 He's obviously feels let down by the club I feel the same I will show my support for LFC for the rest of my life 
but everyone deals with it in different ways I've always had Gerrard on the back of my shirt and will do so 
Wether he's there or not

Stephen Evans > Would you rather we had raffa style of play defensive not arsed about the league but more for Europe.
An we lost alonso because of benitez i mean barry for him f#ckin joke that you forgetting that
 plus the partnership he had with stevie G we lost alonso cos of him. 
Rogers plays attacking football.An there playing with the 2 best strikers as in partnership in Europe 
suddenly taken away an not there or one gone an one injured what team wouldn't miss that every team FACT!
....If he wants to leave let him the club moves on Liverpool have missed saurez a lot more than they will miss stevie g.

Ricky Lfc Hall > Wonder if the Chelsea fans acted like this when frank lampard left????

Andy > David Ynwa Tinsley would you like to say that to my face lad.

David Ynwa Tinsley>  Nigel Watts nothing wrong with calling him plastic if thats what he is
....and saying he wont support liverpool no more just cos hes a little down about things....thats a plastic fan

Andy Gill>  I despise the plastic crap David m8. Other clubs fans not a problem

Nigel Watts >Could we have Raffa s defence

David Ynwa Tinsley> if u like

Michael Spike Moohan>  I remember in the 70's and I mean the late 70's going to watch my 1st Liverpool game against Middlesbrough 
and then going to watch rush Barnes and so on and was called a glory hunter. 
It hurts more now and not because we've not won the league, because of last year. 
The hope it gave us all I could not wait for the next game, 
we did not win a fucking thing last year NOTHING but i was in 7th heaven because we were fantastic, 
we were entertaining every game. Now look at us arguing over stevie G, it's Liverpool football club what counts. YNWA Redmen.

Tanveer > Seems expressing frustration makes a fan plastic. 
Seems too many people are just waiting for an opportunity to jump on other fans, 
call plastic, moron etc etc. what are you guys trying to prove people , that you are better fans? 
Is there a ballon di Or for fans ?

David Ynwa Tinsley > well Andy Gill your comment was basically calling plastic just not using the word...hes not a true fan
 Tanveer Ibn Haresh no one wants to call ppl plastic but when you see idiots like andy acting exactly like a plastic fan
...well you just have to tell them

Andy Gill> I still didnt use the plastic shite David. Too easy to say but always wrong. The man is letting off steam and fair play to him to express his feelings i say..

Kiss MY ....

Stephen Evans > An stevie get will get a wake up call when he moves.
some game for Liverpool toy can see he struggles but in America he will have pure heat conditions then freezing in other parts
 plus climate change travelling time zones that's how some English players struggle.
so for the sake of leaving the way he is to me is stupid 
he would get more respect if he did what carra did an stuck it it out whether he plays the odd less game so what.

Tanveer>  No you don't. You just need to say, calm down mate. I know how it feels. 
Have a beer and cheers. Hopefully things will turn around. Thats how you support your fellow reds.
 You don't say, we don't need you and stuff.

Andy > Until Rogers is sacked or he resigns. I will withdraw my support.
    I believe he has showed our club in a bad light. And has made us look weak and we are losing are true identity.
    just look how he managed the club against Real Madrid.
    Would a more experienced manager lay down like that.
    He made the club look small. And Benched our Best player.
    Yes Best Player. Steven Gerrard.
    some of you have no respect.

CS>its Henry & f s g at the root of it all , BRent is just their employee,hes a coach,not a manager

Jake Cox (!)> oh go away

David Ynwa Tinsley > Tanveer Ibn Haresh Andy Gill id just rather be honest with him and tell him what he is

Jake Cox >  go join a gerrard group

Andy > And I will be seeing you soon.
 Testi di cazzo
 Just wonder will you be all mouth then.
    You're nothing more than a waster.
    I've no time for little gabshites like you.

Jake Cox > will i be all mouth when?

Tanveer> @david That's your choice mate. Respect people , others will respect you.

Stephen Evans > Do you know if they had won the league last season would you still be saying what you are about Rogers
 or is that after you had celebrated for months danced on tables got Pissed.
People need to realise I think that to suddenly lose saurez an sturidge together would destroy any team 
an to replace that is not easy.
stevie g is not the player he was an to spit your dummy out cos he got told he wasn't going to play every game 
that means it's about him not the team.
Ask him would he rather play every game now till he packs in and win nothink 
or play a lot an miss the odd game but win some silverware.it isn't all about him.

 Andrew Regan > Its not about a player, its about a club, no player will never be bigger than the club

Jake Cox > Andy Joe Smyth if you're going to insult someone then do it in a language they understand

Andy Gill > Ah lads...

Tanveer > I can't separate gerrard from Liverpool. No player is greater than a club might apply for every other player, 
but Gerrard is as big as liverpool, he is liverpool

Jake Cox > but he's not... we will still be liverpool when he leaves

Andrew Regan > Yes its sad to see Stevie leave, but we move on, we r Liverpool

Peter Whittaker > Rush,Aldridge,Keegan,Souness they all moved on,we replaced them,sad to see Stevie go.
but the club/fans move on.no-one will ever be as good as Stevie,same as Luis,cos we all compare their replacements...

Andy >  I'm giving my opinion on a situation at the club I have supported for over 40 years.
 And all some people can do his act all hard and mouth off.
    You don't even know me.
    I thought this was a forum so Liverpool fans can give their opinion.
    Not slag each other off.
    Real Liverpool fans don't

    You're a Cox.
   
    Andy Gill > Now your out of order Andy. Keep it lfc related and less of the threats m8..
    
    Peter Whittaker>  ffs guys.a constructive chat is ok,but the last few comments are out of order
...Stop the in fighting..we got months before he goes.make the most of what time we got...
  
Andy >I did keep it Liverpool.
    I wasn't making any threats to anyone. If you notice I was being called plastic fan, because of my opinion.
    the two people in question have no right in calling other fans plastic....

H-T>

steven-is-leaving... Stevie says he would have stayed IF f s g had shown him respect with a contract last summer... (remember he almost left in 05 when Parry didnt "appreciate" Stevie...)
REdNET: Steven is leaving , its time for me too, cant support "them" anymore
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REdNET>  Lfc didnt do enough to keep him... 
he shd have been offered a contract last summer, our club captain, a legend, was left hanging
...f s g dont have the loyalty that they expect from players.

Andy Gill > Andy ..Your entitled to your opinion and i agree with what your saying and alot feels the same regarding gerrard but others will think its time to let him go. Its a no win situation imo but the club will always come first.

Harvey> Andy , the "club" is ours, and its time for people to stand up , again, because its going wrong..

 its apathy ... too many things , the way Kenny was renoved half way through contract, the deal with Pepe, Agger, 
..no loyalty shown, but they expect players to be loyal to a boardroom that dont even know footy 
... Stevie is a rare entity .. cant just say the club is bigger, because , sometimes... "it" is NOT!

...when "its managers" are SMALL!

HE would be fighting f s g now, too!

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