Tuesday, May 29, 2018

REdNET bootroom; "L'BIRD" ; post final; THE TRUE REd ISSUEs ; then, now and next year,,,WE DO "GO again"

THE TRUE REd issues ; 

then,
 now 
and 

next year,,,  

WE do "GO AGAIN"
 ... do you?

CS> since the semis (ScLoG) has been a bit "quiet" because a million opinions have been shoved down your throats,, however REdNET (CS) has been active,,,  more below...  just had this little exchange with yet another "fannie" 



 some one (!) asked how many Lfcplayers would get in rm side...

MY ANSWER; " who would want to, for Uefa favourite & money frauds "galactico cheats"? no thanks... ,

Firmino is happy at Lfc , Mo wont go after what Ramos did, ... anyway football is , despite the opinion of video game players & some idiot pundits, a team game , not just to put 11 top players on the same field, the collective force of the Liverpool team, on another day would blow away any team , including ron & co.. Benitez won against a superior "eleven" in 2005 ..because he got the team working in the 2nd half of Istanbul,... i agree with Jk (on this point at least) that is what makes football so great that there are always surprises , because.... a cohesive team and maybe a bit of good luck, can win over any arrogant bunch of prats... ;) "

REdNET bootroom opinion :
the issues

Then ( off the field)

"elephant in the room" the "january sale" yep, no one will want to discuss that in November, Lfc (in the form of JK) said that he had no intention of Phil C or Studge leaving the squad... saturday night... and having overcome 2 shocks to the team & travelling support;

a) Mo being "taken out" by ramos



b) Karius became their 12th man and gifted the vital 1st goal











players and supporters gleefully applauded the rightful efforts of Mane & co... to equalize... "back in the game" ? against all odds...........




hardly time to catch a breath, when on come "welsh galactico" Bale... to bail out rm with an almost freak goal, .. "magic' by an apparently "under valued" (?) rm player who has struggled to make the team this season.. wins it for them...


BIG player- after Mo was "taken out" by ramos...
Mane hits the post, then...










Karius Mk 2...

and its unworthy of Lfc fans "hating" a player, as much as the bile sticks in our throats..

...He is a "professional" Karius has an ego, ...he drives a big car, (as many do) with a number LK1 (personal plate) he came to Lfc to make his own fortune,.. he took the posiition of Gk from Simon, who IMO should NOT have replaced my personal favourite of Pepe Reina ..


I am a supporter of the team,, I have sympathy with supporters AND with the players who gave their best

.. i would argue , as I mentioned before ...

that Juergen should NOT have put him the position in such a game, but Karius was happy to take the credit if things went well... I think of Milly , who worked his socks off through the tournament
... and maybe played his last season for Lfc (he will be 33 and u know how young players will challenge him next season) Hendo too .. who fought hard , especially after Mo going off made it harder.. .


.... Mo...I have deep sympathy much more than Karius because he and we knew that he could have won it for the supporters and the team, Firmino and Mane, who tried to make the difference after Mo s brutal exit...

Wijnaldum too , who showed more class and effort after replacing Ox in the latter stages of the CL, young Trent , a 19 year old scouser, seeing his home team humiliated on the world stage by stupid errors from a man several years older..

Lovren who was with VVD impressive when so many expected him to be weak against Ronaldo, and dont forget Robbo, the "duracel bunny" of the Liverpool team....


he ran and ran and fought and made last ditch tackles (as did Dejan) that also denied the poser a final goal.

..THESE are the men I empathize with..

. i will never HATE a player in a REd shirt, thats just wrong... BUT, i will state my truth, as i see it..


THE ISSUE however.. is this ... Lfc dont have to be Madrid or Citeh to win trophies (in extreme form Leicester showed that in the EPL recently..) but HAD Lfc kept Phil , even could have done the deal with barca (as Lfc did with Keita) .. to remain for the for the rest of the season.. (he was cup-tied anyway) and arguably our "magician" could have been the match winner, even if Mo was hit by their "assasin" ?????

Now (on the field)


I wont apologise for this ... because its the policies OFF the field that fans dont understand that dictate much of what goes on..

in recent games Lfc have relied on ONLY ELEVEN "regulars" to see out the EPL 17/18 season and the Champions League campaign.

Sure, JK makes a fair statement that its a "positive" to get to a final and remain in the top of the EPL, however I would claim that ...

If Phil, had been at the club until now, and Studge (yes, I wouldnt start him, but I feel he would arguably have more impact , even past his best, than Danny or young Solanke..) Lfc would not have needed to win the last game to "qualify" ... (money target)

Winning the drawn games v everton (twice) Stoke & WBA

..an extra 8 points? puts Lfc in 2nd and that much closer to the current champions..

the money received would more than compensate for the delayed sale... (and I wont mention Grujic, who looks despondent now...)


Just a word or 2 about the season.. the away game at Citeh, and we have seen several times referee decisions that contradict the red card for Sadio, prior to which, Lfc were troubling citeh... gave them impetus and cost the Red team confidence and Mane didnt get his form back until this last month (IMO) ... would the Lfc boardroom have kept Phil if Lfc were close to the title...? we will never know... but...

On past experience... I doubt it,, since USA corp took control of their business; players worth collectively over half a BILLION have gone, key players that could have made Lfc champions instead of "also rans"


THE ONLY COACH THAN WON A TROPHY SINCE usa CORP in 11 seasons , was Kenny , and they sacked him although he nearly won 2 in his first full season (2nd time around..)

Mascherano, Alonso, Pepe, Agger, Torres, Sterling, Suarez, (even Stevie was denied a new contract & could have still done a job for the team, instead of USA...) and Coutinho...

SOLD TO RIVAL TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 in recent years I have decided not to travel back to Liverpool because i have problems with the people in the boardroom who IMO are not suitable to influence my club...


Next ; do you "Go Again" ? ..WE DO!

Look at these ...
















The support has been remarkable,... so many have given their all to "be there" in heart if not in body, ...

.My own sympathy is with all the supporters who are on low income who struggled to get tot an expensive event, for example local lads took a chance a drove a small bus to Kiev..their average income only 300 euros p/month /... how do they feel?

have the "shark infested boardroom" given THEIR all ? have they f>>k!!

ACTION by YOU?????


ChRiS>
 to all members & friends ... important, please... , and with compliments of "REdS abroad" link; @/groups/eured.supporters ... supporting... a new concept of how Liverpool Supporters can improve conditions for fans , local & global and now a couple of days after the final day, I would appreciate , if you have a few moments today, your reaction,

 not about the game itself, (enough has been said !)

but about how supporters are treated , considering the cost of travel or tickets, any contribution that help ourgroup of true REDS (all non profit volunteers) improve the loyal institution of true Red supporters , local & global...?
best wishes, Christopher Richard Smith
YNWA/J4t96


https://www.facebook.com/events/1825189551119009/

SEE ...
save our club, empower REd supporters, local and global, ..... 

get with the "L'BIRD" (coin) ... the only LIVERPOOL currency ... 

(More than, this,  more than a BIT BETTER than "bitcoin" ) 

REdNET > 
https://harveysclog.blogspot.com/2018/05/lfc-lost-it-and-u-can-stick-theres.html  

a long and travelled journey to get back to where we were...

NOW, support the empowerment of Red supporters ; local & global via "L'Bird"

..  YOUR Liverpool currency (coin) ...  

"MORE than than this ....

... L'BIRD is more than a BIT better than "bitcoin" !

;)

/events/387543281654937


______________________

Read PLEASE...carefully...
2018/05/from-kiev-with-love-coma-liverpool-life

I was a Shanks boy, on the kop when i wasnt tall enough to see the game as i got "surfed all over the terrace , when 25000 men packed into that massive socialist collective at the Kop end, something not even comparible with the modern support, .. maybe sometimes the away fans get close to it... I have never booed a player .. ever! however on social media (as i would in the old days with Red mates before or after the game discuss the team, players and such, in recent years I have decided not to travel back to Liverpool because i have probllems with the people in the boardroom who IMO are not suitable to influence my club... . I am a supporter of the team,, I have sympathy with supporters AND with the players who gave their best..



this is postponed (members know where and when to meet)

7 comments:

  1. ,i80530

    CRS> LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB was formed for a group of men to play football, to entertain supporters and for members (non playing) to support that team..

    PRIORITY

    1. play football and win games (and trophies)

    2.. entertain the support and be supported by its members..

    3. admin & everything else..

    USA CORP, dont care about 1 and 2 ...the "shark infested" boardroom of f.s.g - Lfc has its 1, 2 & 3 as business: TV revenue, sponsors (USA mainly) income, selling or loaning out players rather than making them "the LIVERPOOL way" ours for keeps by winning TROPHIES on the field.. Henry-Werner have had several changes of staff and massive turnover of players.. bad for club spirit and progress.. Lfc is run (ruined) by accountants... ok, NOW, look at the state financed madRID club..their team has been kept together.. even JK has changed many players since Basel 2 years ago,,,(agreed mostly for the better,.,)

    H-T: ... so whats the answer?

    CRS> ...go to.... https://unsubtolosi-rednet.blogspot.com/2018/05/from-kiev-with-love-coma-liverpool-life.html if Lfc is now an enterprise, let it be ours, via supporter empowerment..

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    1. read on..???????
      AND DONT TELL ME , WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON...AFTER 11 SEASONS OF THE SAME
      .H-T> .NOTHING! ..Henry-werner sacked the only Man to win a trophy in eleven seasons of USAcorp .. maybe they sacked KENNY for almost winning a second one in his first full season (2nd time) ? ...... ......... --------- ------------ ChRiS>
      REdNETMay 20, 2018 at 1:31 AM
      Christopher Richard Smith ; Global Network
      An estimated 30 million + registered Lfc fans on the net. (likely to increase by 10% if lfc win on 26th May)
      CRS has access to over 50 Supporter sites on social media - around 100,000 direct contact.

      Lfc business owners

      Fenway Sports Group (c.e.o John Henry) hedge fund & Boston red sox owners
      (unpopular with core supporters; Sales of best players ; Mascherano, Torres, Sterling, Suarez, Coutinho & others = income circa 500 Million e,
      since taking over 2007 from Moores Family via G & H (Leveraged)

      Plan A

      The clear aim is to benefit LIVERPOOL supporters worlwide & empower them via a universal REDS Supporter Union Network with the "L'Bird" as our currency.

      Targets

      1. to convince 10,000 core supporters to buy into "L'bird con" @ e20 per = 200,000e
      2. Thereafter to aim to bring 25 million more of the estimated 30 million plus global Lfc fans on the net @ e50 = sum ; 125ME (million euros)

      to encourage a sale to "L'bird coin" we Challenge owners legal validity, unwelcome public scandal? acquire club via issue of supporters shares min e20(core) max e50 per share.

      subscribers receive a coin, at the very least.

      Plan B

      L'Bird promotions (products & services) sales via supporter network.
      increasing revenue by own products rather than endorsement of sponsors,
      direct negotiation with factories to serve a 30 million full network via our supporters & fan clubs who become commissioned sales agents, every fan-member is a salemen.

      Media

      International press release, day before final.when global attention at its highest, Mo Salah (several player of the year awards, + golden boot, potential Ballon D'or winner - claim that WE could convince Mo to stay, by a football - wise strategy rather than accounting stretegy, with employing pro manageemnt - celebrity fans on board for publicity worldwide
      Website linked to social media...

      Method

      "L'Bird cryptocurrency" ? Logsitics managed in MNE, via Slo co.? a co-operative partner.

      ...PLAN "C" could become plan a...see L'BIRD coin ..club/union for Liverpool supporters only?
      Travel (Kiev disaster avoided) improved facilties, continue pressing for at least 50/50 with owners (as in BRD) ...

      The majority of members should see this as an emotional rather than financial decision, supporter empowerment for the cost of e20? when Lfc fans have just been ripped off for 1000 GBP day trip for the final in Kiev!!
      where is the risk, the administrators are duty bound to repay if the targets are not achieved, and should "the dreaM" (acquisition of the business corp controlling Lfc) be achieved member will achieve a share of the eventual Liverpool football club at only e50 per share (non votiing) voting rights to be decided at an EGM once control is confirmed.. considering the debatable scandal over the original sale in 2007 we would oppose any sale to a,n,other person / party/institution or corp.

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    2. ChRiS
      My personal wishes; to initiate, lead, co-ordinate & achieve "the dream" and fund unique academy / ethical / evo youth centre of excellence in Pg, cover my personal / home office expenses (only e5k p/a to date)
      email concerning the above campaign or mypod-net.org
      (personal)

      where is the risk? , the administrators are duty bound to repay if the targets are not achieved, and should "the dreaM" (acquisition of the business corp controlling Lfc) be achieved member will achieve a share of the eventual Liverpool football club at only e50 per share (non voting) voting rights to be decided at an EGM once control is confirmed.. considering the debatable scandal over the original sale in 2007 we would oppose any sale to a,n,other person / party/institution or corp.... really quite ridiculous for anyone to doubt this chance, especially as many UK residents have lost something like 25% of the asset value /GBP last year due to the pounds devaluation via "brexit" fears...?
      REdNETMay 22, 2018 at 12:13 AM
      a modern and effective way of bonding global Reds (our own bitcoin) see http://unsubtolosi-rednet.blogspot.com/2018/05/from-kiev-with-love-coma-liverpool-life.html

      HarveySCLOG-UNSub_At_MontyMay 22, 2018 at 7:08 AM
      Lbird coin is more than a "bit better than bit coin"?

      My personal wishes; to initiate, lead, co-ordinate & achieve "the dream" and fund unique academy / ethical / evo youth centre of excellence in Pg, cover my personal / home office expenses (only e5k p/a to date)
      email concerning the above campaign@ursun.net or ngo@mypod-net.org
      or via (personal message on FB)

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  2. RebTV-"L'BIRD" IS your own Liverpool currency! ( https://youtu.be/yEFEDeo117c #censoRED ? )


    if Lfc is now an enterprise, let it be ours, via supporter empowerment...

    Henry-werner sacked the only Man to win a (2nd class) trophy in eleven seasons of USAcorp .. maybe they sacked KENNY for almost winning a second one in his first full season (2nd time) ?

    Christopher Richard Smith ; Global Network
    An estimated 30 million + registered Lfc fans on the net.
    CRS has access to over 50 Supporter sites on social media - around 100,000 direct contact.

    Lfc business owners

    Fenway Sports Group & c.e.o John Henry; hedge fund & Boston red sox owners are unpopular with many core supporters; Sales of best players ; Mascherano, Torres, Sterling, Suarez, Coutinho & others = income circa 500 Million e,
    since taking over 2007 from Moores Family via G & H ,Leveraged

    Plan A

    The clear aim is to benefit LIVERPOOL supporters worldwide & empower them via a universal REDS Supporter Union Network with the "L'Bird" as our currency.

    Targets

    1. to convince 10,000 core supporters to buy into "L'bird con" @ e20 per = 200,000e
    2. Thereafter to aim to bring 25 million more of the estimated 30 million plus global Lfc fans on the net @ e50 = sum ; 125ME (million euros)

    to encourage a sale to "L'bird coin" we Challenge owners legal validity, unwelcome public scandal? acquire club via issue of supporters shares min e20 ,core, max e50 per share. , after EGM

    subscribers receive a coin, at the very least.

    Plan B

    L'Bird promotions products & service sales via supporter network.
    increasing revenue by own products rather than endorsement of sponsors,
    direct negotiation with factories to serve a 30 million full network via our supporters & fan clubs who become commissioned sales agents, every fan-member is a salesman..

    Apply a football - wise strategy rather than accounting stretegy, with employing pro management - celebrity fans on board for publicity worldwide

    Website linked to social media...

    Method

    "L'Bird cryptocurrency" ? Logsitics via co-operative partner.

    ...PLAN "C" already becioming part of plan a...see L'BIRD coin ..club union for Liverpool supporters only...
    Travel avoiding Kiev disaster avoided) improved facilities and, continue pressing for at least 50-50 with owners ...
    The majority of members should see this as an emotional rather than financial decision, supporter empowerment for the cost of e20? when Lfc fans have just been ripped off for 1000 GBP day trip for the final in Kiev!!?refunds are made on request if the targets are not achieved, and should "the dreaM" (acquisition of the business corp controlling Lfc, be achieved ) each member will achieve a share of the eventual Liverpool football club at only e50 per share , non voting, voting rights to be decided at an EGM once control is confirmed.. considering the debatable scandal over the original sale in 2007 we would oppose any sale to a,n,other person , party, institution or corp.

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  3. i80531

    RebTV-"L'BIRD" IS your own Liverpool currency! ( https://youtu.be/yEFEDeo117c #censoRED ? )


    if Lfc is now an enterprise, let it be ours, via supporter empowerment...

    Henry-werner sacked the only Man to win a (2nd class) trophy in eleven seasons of USAcorp .. maybe they sacked KENNY for almost winning a second one in his first full season (2nd time) ?

    Christopher Richard Smith ; Global Network
    An estimated 30 million + registered Lfc fans on the net.
    CRS has access to over 50 Supporter sites on social media - around 100,000 direct contact.

    Lfc business owners

    Fenway Sports Group & c.e.o John Henry; hedge fund & Boston red sox owners are unpopular with many core supporters; Sales of best players ; Mascherano, Torres, Sterling, Suarez, Coutinho & others = income circa 500 Million e,
    since taking over 2007 from Moores Family via G & H ,Leveraged

    Plan A

    The clear aim is to benefit LIVERPOOL supporters worldwide & empower them via a universal REDS Supporter Union Network with the "L'Bird" as our currency.

    Targets

    1. to convince 10,000 core supporters to buy into "L'bird con" @ e20 per = 200,000e
    2. Thereafter to aim to bring 25 million more of the estimated 30 million plus global Lfc fans on the net @ e50 = sum ; 125ME (million euros)

    to encourage a sale to "L'bird coin" we Challenge owners legal validity, unwelcome public scandal? acquire club via issue of supporters shares min e20 ,core, max e50 per share. , after EGM

    subscribers receive a coin, at the very least.

    Plan B

    L'Bird promotions products & service sales via supporter network.
    increasing revenue by own products rather than endorsement of sponsors,
    direct negotiation with factories to serve a 30 million full network via our supporters & fan clubs who become commissioned sales agents, every fan-member is a salesman..

    Apply a football - wise strategy rather than accounting stretegy, with employing pro management - celebrity fans on board for publicity worldwide

    Website linked to social media...

    Method

    "L'Bird cryptocurrency" ? Logsitics via co-operative partner.

    ...PLAN "C" already becioming part of plan a...see L'BIRD coin ..club union for Liverpool supporters only...
    Travel avoiding Kiev disaster avoided) improved facilities and, continue pressing for at least 50-50 with owners ...

    The majority of members should see this as an emotional rather than financial decision, supporter empowerment for the cost of e20? when Lfc fans have just been ripped off for 1000 GBP day trip for the final in Kiev!!?...refunds are made on request if the targets are not achieved, and should "the dreaM" (acquisition of the business corp controlling Lfc, be achieved ) each member will achieve a share of the eventual Liverpool football club at only e50 per share , non voting, voting rights to be decided at an EGM once control is confirmed.. considering the debatable scandal over the original sale in 2007 we would oppose any sale to a,n,other person , party, institution or corp.

    ReplyDelete
  4. RebTV- https://www.facebook.com/redrockfc.montereds/videos/2003544533297244

    "L'BIRD" IS your own Liverpool currency! ( https://youtu.be/yEFEDeo117c #censoRED ?
    OR via ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=yEFEDeo117c ? )


    if Lfc is now an enterprise, let it be ours, via supporter empowerment...

    Core TRUE REd supporters want ;

    * To Protect our people , local & global
    * to enable better conditions, free from harassment
    * Lower ticket & travel costs
    * better deal on club products
    * communication between all true supporters on ALL club issues

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/wild.beautiful.footy/

    ________________________

    Christopher Richard Smith and x from friends @ https://www.facebook.com/me.without.limits/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/eured.supporters ;

    "this and our associated groups will not be posting transfer speculation, gossip, and fannies "rumours" of who (they) want to sign, every player on the planet, its a waste of your time.. we focus on whats TRULY important ..."

    . we wish to make sure that all supporters,, players (inc. youth and grass roots teams ) local & global are treated correctly and fairly, by the Lfc we invest in, & other clubs, by UEFA, by police/stewards , and not ripped off through european travel, or exploited via ticketing home or away (europe especially) join this..(read the text carefully,please)
    REdNET/H-T

    . we wish to make sure that all supporters,, players (inc. youth and grass roots teams ) local & global are treated correctly and fairly, by the Lfc we invest in, & other clubs, by UEFA, by police/stewards , and not ripped off through european travel, or exploited via ticketing home or away (europe especially) join this..(read the text carefully,please)
    REdNET/H-T

    _________________________________________________


    ChriS-EuRED
    ‏ @EuRED09

    @RedAlieNeT @harveytuttle @RedAndWhiteKop @WellRedMagazine @TonyEvans92a @JayMcKenna87 RebTV ; https://www.facebook.com/redrockfc.montereds/videos/2003544533297244 …
    "L'BIRD" IS your own Liverpool currency! https://youtu.be/yEFEDeo117c #censoRED ?
    if Lfc is now an enterprise, let it be ours, via global supporter power #Lbirdcoin

    Core TRUE REd supporters want ; power
    * To Protect our people , local & global
    * to enable better conditions, free from harassment
    * Lower ticket & travel costs
    * better deal on club products
    * communication between all true supporters on ALL club issues

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/wild.beautiful.footy/

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  5. ______________________

    Hiya Reds , would you be willing to join a global supporters group here online, no obligation other than to discuss problems & benefits for Liverpool supporters, local & global, maximum 5 mins contribution in your time, per session weekly between now and end of july..?

    _______________________________

    to Tonko, Janko & zoran
    1. as no team from Pg had registered flor the summer international tournament , i will move it to Bp ... and see what happens next year,
    2. as my academy for 11 to 15 years old kids is not supported at Katun, I have suspended the project until august , and will consider alternatives
    on a personal note, i was disgusted by the attitude of your guests last saturday - as it was supposed to be a joint birthday & football party, they were not even introduced to me, and brought their own food, which was not shared. Also several people associated with me at Katun, simply did not bother, to come or reply.
    so I feel I must limit my associastion here. for the immediate future, at least.
    ChRiS
    F & U mission/1team

    ---Tonku, Janko i zoran
    1. pošto nijedan tim iz Pg-a nije registrovao letnji međunarodni turnir, prebacim ga na Bp ... i vidim šta se dešava sledeće godine,
    2. pošto moja akademija za decu od 11 do 15 godina nije podržana u Katunu, suspendovala sam projekat do avgusta i razmotriće alternative
    na ličnoj belešci, bio sam gadan stavom vaših gostiju prošle subote - kako je trebalo da budu zajednički rođendanski i fudbalski žurci, nisu me ni upoznali i doneli sopstvenu hranu koja nije bila podeljena. Takođe, nekoliko ljudi povezanih sa mnom u Katunu, jednostavno se nije trudilo, došlo ili odgovorilo.
    tako da osećam da moram ovde ograničiti moju angažiranost. bar za budućnost.
    ChRiS
    F & U misija / 1team





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