REdNet Bootroom pre spurs away & ChriStory v mancs

@ Spurs

-wembley  used to be a familar place when we went their regulkarly to claim a cup, be crowned champions of europe, merseypride finals and charity shields galore!


both teams should be "up for it"  spurs having a credible 1-1 @ madrid and the REDdS  recording a record 0-7 @ Maribor... 

*of course Rafas RedS hold the highest score achieved when we hammered Besiktas 8-0 (i was happy to be there that night!) I dont go to games anymore, costs and giving profit to USAcorp prohibts me on pragmatic and ethical grounds..

If all Fit, I would select;  Mign,  Gomez ,  Matip , Dejan , Milly (his performance jusifies)  Hendo, Wijn, Can, Phil, Firm & Salah,, Studge on 60 mins .... 

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Rotating goalies or CBs is risky, dont do it! need to develop understanding..Mignolet should play every league & European fixture .. I would keep deserving Milly in by placing him instead of MoreNO , and Gomez on Right with Hendo in front of back 4 .. big game to win ... will be difficult but... http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/…/tottenham-v-liverpool-four…(pearce is a wan**r! )

our Rafa 1 their "woy" 0

If Rafa had been backed by the boardroom and fickle fan nies Lfc would have won the title in the last decade, maybe a couple of times. IMO!

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Christopher Richard Smith

Admin · 20 October at 10:41

https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/…/liverpool-v-manchester-uni…

apart from being a blatant book selling article... I will give you MY "alternative perspective"

from 64 to 84 ,,,LIVERPOOL "wagged the dog" Our Footy, our Music, our belief, (Shanks/Lennon spirit) & our fashion..however...
Liverpool Fc in the 80s , became also a reflection of UK / world society , commercial, violent & greedy

We had previously , thanks to Shanks & Lennon become a world wide icon
no coincidence that both left the planet during this decade..

and people were worse off for that loss,,
the "capitalist victory" more than the "fall of soviet socialism" (it wasn't social) affected the masses e
Gecko's "greed is g(o)od" sucked in a whole generation of "loads 'o money" sheeple..
and building selfish pyramids provided success at the expense of those trodden on..
(and you selfishly voted again for brexit & t(hatcher).May ! )

the RED should of OUR 60/70s generation died.. or was mortally & morally wounded during the eighties ..
the double disaster of Heysell & Hillsborouh dealt us a body blow which we have never really recovered from..
90's departure of Kenny, whilst errors of Lfc boardroom, Souness (great capt. on the field) , Evans & the spice boys
...just compounded Lfc decline ...

I recall after so many years of domestic & european domination , the shock of Heysell..
caused by apathy , ignorant policies (also murdered the 96) and an obvious accumulation of new fans ,
keen to follow Lfc success from oher areas of UK & to travel europe, with us,
and keen for a scrap, with a minimum of social awareness...

the grounding of "the me me me society"... no surprise, forming fickle fans Lfc produced today..
you got the society and the football club you deserve.. allowing them to betray true supporters & sack Rafa & Kenny..
whilst employing he wors ever man in a Lfc managers seat; Woy ! then media man Brendan & te new superchared german version'
Kloppites Juergen, ( "Der basteln mann") I like hm,,
however he comes nowhere close to the unappreciaed Rafa (who had a plan for Lfc cut short by the c&nts inside & ouside Lfc)

I am an "Alien REd" I always travelled to games, since i was 16, living/working away from home,
and I empathize wih true Reds who really suppor the team, from anywhere..
however , as can be seen on social media, is not only "wools & tourists" who utter crap now..
even Carra is a defeatist afer 7 league games!!!!

the UK followed like sheeple into Bahdad ("WMD") invasion and " b-Liars "join USAs war"... developed a blue labour party...
incredible... and writers of TAW and Echo also allowed uSAcorp to infect Lfc whilst the ciy loaded up on "08"

city of Liverpool is now the second most popular enlish tourist destination , after London..
is it a surprise hanry & his infestors exploit every opportunity to fill Anfield wih "punters"
with their pockets full of cash to spend in the Lfc stores etc...?

add the many different distractions open to kids (and their fahers) video games , netflix and other sports easier to access..
so many "Lfc experts" who play a video game who think they "know football"... of course many REDS prefer to suppor AFC Liverpool,
as Anfield becomes quieter , more commercial and more sterile..

as for the Mancs...
I was also @ the '77 FA cup final & although was sad losing , hecoming european champions a few days later,
for he firs time gave me such joy it wasnt unil 20 years later that "failure" (treble) it really "bothered me"

I only react out of original pride and the distaste of fergie's bully-style of "management " (dictatorship) gave me,
however, recently, I sat afer midnight in a bratislava hotel with a mature Man U supporter ....
and we had a lot in common,,, lamenting the current state of our relative clubs (despite their "success")...

I have always seen our rivals as transient... during my time; Arsenal (were the rich enemies early days) Leeds, (Ipswich & later QPR were always
temp annoyance) Everton were a rival to respect ..I shared travel to finals wih blues , (and their social awareness)
then , for me, Madrid, Bayern, & less so, Barca, became "rivals" as we were a European force,,,(again with Rafa, until he left)

is a reflection of the way the Lfc "propaganda" machine has managing "expectations" that media are surprised when Lfc "reject" an offer
for Phil from barca... for me it would ALWAYS be logical no avoid sales to "rivals" ,...
carra seems to want to convince me that Lfc fans must accept the "arse-nal" policy (unless its his way of anti yan ker warnings)
"4th & a cup" to be thankful for?? (whilst Henry & co become richer by the hour) Klopp is their man, after all!

well you can feck off too, :)
\great defender,,, but a not manager , IMO!

despite Maureen, the Mancs are no big deal... citeh , ok, but things happen and money/oil will not always bring success
(whatever happened to UEFA financial fair play controls ha ha ha)
the last time I acknowledged Man U was when they had a team & manager worthy of it; Busby leading Best (was rea) Law & Charlton
... even so..applauded their "67/68 success..
i was too young to know better...
:)

REDnet bootroom update 0-0 and more @ MariBORE?

REDnet bootroom update 
0-0 Maureen's a bore-draw-whore!
and more @ MariBORE?

Maureen came to steal a point , and maybe 3 ,  Lfc defence was only tested once , Mignolet & defence did enough to ensure this was not embarrassing,

..not a credit to either side ,  nothing much  to learn except that Mancs are no champions, and Maureen decided a point was a decent result... 

because he knew a victory for Lfc would be a double edged sword... not only the points lost to a "rival" but could have boosted the season for JK & the Reds

is about management ,
Carra!

Since USAcorp, and their removal of Rafa, (the last pre-yan ker manager!)  Lfc have slid down to an arsenal policy of "top 4 is enough".... 



Lfc came close in 09 and even with Brendan in 14 (having Stevie & Suarez helped that "push")

woy chosen,  worst Lfc man in history! chosen by 
G & H over Rafa , kept by Henry until 10,000 fans did not attend Anfield, Kenny won the only trophy since 07 , got to FA final, then Henry sacked him after a "vote of confidence"  Brendan, their young media-friendly man, and weird transfer foul ups..(and that ridiculous video "exposure")  Chang scandal, "standards corrupted"  etc 

and althouh Lfc have been poorly managed in footballing terms off he field also, I see  his article as defeatism from Carra, & shows me his lack of creativity and vision, reflects his game on the field and punditry off of it..... 

Carra was a great defender , however , easy to be an "expert" (and I AM NO Kloppite)  however, if you are not having to carry the decisions of management.......

True Klopp left subs late... IMO players must be given at least 30 mins to have an effect v mancs ...2 of them Studge and OX OR Solanke should have been on @ 60 mins when Lfc were struggling to break down Maureen's bus!

wrong about some things , right about a few...

we-must-develop-a-cruel-streak-lovren-

critics @   klopp-and-mourinho-need-more-than-huff-and-puff-

wrong about Leicester & Rafa

... Leicester ...could have built on their league title , instead they sold their most effective player to rivals Chelski, and failed to strengthen the squad, so carra's point is nul, Lfc could or should have "done a Leicester" .... Ranieri was betrayed by players,, could he have motivated them?... Klopp must instill into Lfc selection a desire to WIN mainly missing since 10 seasons

carra mentioned Rafa, however, he was told to "sell before you buy?" their boardroom didnt support Benitez, 

had Rafa, been allowed to complete his contract and a 10 year Plan , I am convinced that Lfc would have won the league once or twice,. with the funds that JK has had 

analysis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAO078MrH9w

"Luck" 

is Juergen "lucky" ,,so far ...?  

utorak @ MareBORE? 

JK pre-match... I just love these local journos , who always seem to promote their own coaches & sides during "question time"   press conference @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBEq27GHLrA

home coach will play very "tight  (wih little mistakes)"  ..what a surprise!!  you have been warned! :p

Kennys stand....  

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He must have been as frustrated as anyone on a day when his name could have been celebrated ...Kenny took risks..

we desserved the best , not any more???

@ eured.supporters/

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REdNEt update ; Culture & breaking (the international break) news; Rumours , a gillion * pre maureen & mancs parkin @ Anfield

REdNEt update 

Maureen & his Mancs Parking : Anfield?

3 of the last 4 games v maureens mancs have been undecided (?) , and their last visit in the league, i recall , a stifling game, (Maureen's heavy parking plan)  , no doubt with their impressive form & start , 

manc Fans will fancy snatching a win Saturday.... 

I hate early Kick offs when we need more "atmosphere"

SO, AN IDEAL time for JK to earn his salary and motivate the lads .. which would surprise most and take some pressure off, as he has been heavily criticised for constantly changing "defensive" players , and making late subs ...
(some justifiably,IMO ) 

Kenny's stand

No one deserves to be honoured more than THE LEGEND that isDalglish, for what he has done , 

on & OFF the field for Liverpool and our people is immense, however, these "special " days seem to distract us from the game..(and wih a failure  to win them ) 

THIS TIME, I hope the team will honour him (and true RED supporters ) with a winning result, I am sure that would please him as much, and me..@EuRED09 affected all true REDS, living in europe, been defending ours v media ignorance & malice of gov, how can any human vote tory? J4t96 
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/01/hillsborough-football-disaster-tragedy-inquiry-liverpool
! broken via INTERNATIONAL Breaking? 

Much could depend on how many injuries and conditions the games played by players (especially Lfc ) for their national sides.. Like most true REDS I despise these "breaks" , usually, however , Lfc had been embarrassed @ Newcastle, just before , and Rafa played Lfc exactly right,(for him)  and Lfc players didnt rise to the occasion. the so-called "fab 4" looked jaded...despite Phil's wonder goal..

If i was a LFC manager (with  authority) I would keep them all @ Anfield and say, "you cannot play for them until you earn your wages WITH US"  disgusting... 

Shanks would have a fit... 

News? or rumour , again!

ON  our blogs & groups we have since before USA corp infested Lfc  campaigned for supporters sharing what was "our club" 
facebook.com/REdNET.Sclog/

US prezzie Dump is "No fail" , HE HAS succesfully exploited exactly what yr system enables; exploit the many for sake of a few, have president last 50 years deserves #americanTs http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-rich/

his family frauds exploit war & property like uSACorp & Henry ,, "legalised frauds" (hedgin') betting wih other peoples investments

a long-winded denial from echo/Lfc ; 
who-amanda-staveley-liverpool-supporting-

v Mckenna J of "SoS" & him defending his ineffective union/Shankly family > why #?
CS>then as sole fans reps, you ARE to blame for failing to oppose USAcorp since a decade of erosion of "the Spirit of Shanks" @ Lfc!@RedAlieNeT more importantly IF you use Bill's name, you are duty bound to deal with such as Henry &co with the balls he had! U weak cowards###

whatever the truth of this , our "REdNEt" (and even G & H) still predicted USAcorp will eventually sell off Lfc for over a billion, , Supporters could have had it for almost nothing in 2010 had we allowed Lfc to go into admin.


"OUR CULTURE"  

--CS>  just a small correction ; Cilla sang "Anyone who had a heart" 

however,
nice history lesson for he current generation, who , like their media, music, politics and culture , lacking in depth creativity and original ideas, many of the "fast food / me me me generation" can hardly string a sentence together , and often get it so wrong when they do bother ..(comparing Brendan with "build a team like Shanks did" ....cringe )
lack of depth, most of the best songs came from our generation, not just because of success but also because we were not supplied with so much media and stuff that fills their heads now,.. we had to depend on our own imagination, our games and fun ,, many of us only had a football to play with... 
 kids now overloaded with choices.. the culture is lost via commercialization of everything..Lfc even do it with Shanks/YNWA players and fans (are no longer "supporters" IMO) fickle disloyal and thin on knowledge of their own..

and do dads pass it on... ? I wonder... lyrics are often born out of social life, suffering , pain and experience... suffering caused he blues... (ask evertonians) ha ha but we are REd or are we.. ??? "socialism" is put down a every chance.. and we invented lyrics

even 10 years ao in Piazza del Duomo, Milano , @nearly 05h creating lyrics like "Tommy Mascherano" 10/20 lads who didn't wan to go to sleep after Torres had helped us to a 0-1 @ san siro..

the core problem is social-cultural... mind you watch Klopps defence should cause some "emotional inspiration" for the current "kloppites" .. ha ha ha

ChriS

https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2017/10/dreams-and-songs-to-sing-how-the-anfield-songbook-has-evolved-down-the-years/#comment-61210

NO DEFENCE for media Bullsh&Te

nothing here "is curious" , any CB would have problems in a constantly changing defence, only foolish pundits & media fail to see the obvious, you expect consistency in defenders, yet JK is inconsistent in his defensive choices, goalies/CBs should be a UNIT only be changed through injury or persistent loss of form.. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/curious-case-liverpools-joel-matip-13728950

The curious case of Joel Matip - is something going wrong?

even "the Liverpool way" write crap articles these days, the "defensive leader" Lfc let leave was Lucas.. Matip is not , is usually instinctive , leadership is in you , or not... http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php/articles.html/_/fe/misc-articles/matip-the-right-man-to-fill-the-defensive-leader-role-by-jason-harris-r1329
Matip the right man to fill the Defensive leader role - by Jason Harris - Misc Articles - Articles -...

MISSING!

what concerns me, is when Lfc started season Clyne was known to be out, however, JK decided to have TWO major alterations in his defensive unit.(and with goalie maybe 3?) .  a risk that may have worked, but did not,
...only one person should accept the blame, and is not the player!  

rare I agree wih echo writers, however..
JK has to get this right Saturday... maureen will try to steal the game, so everyone has to be 100per cent focused and fight for every chance.. yeah I would give fresh Milner  the "left back role".  and Gomez right, he can battle too.!  -------------
OTHER from my "bootroom"

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/premier-league-clubs-vote-close-13587183  AND THEY COULD make inter-national qualification games : @an xmas winter break? and in summer and start season 2 weeks later WOULD REQUIRE INTELLECT, sadly lacking @ all FAs , UEFA and FIFA..

of course, when you vote (for anyone in USA) for tory govt. you have BLOOD on your hands ,, they focus on business and WAR is their biggest business..

AND join our festival , June 2018... 
"book early to avoid disappointment"

Geordies, Rafa , Jk, Hot heads & cold feet? ; Lfc "blanket sill needs extra material? (1-1) RedNet bootroom update ....

Geordies, Rafa , Jk,  "Hot heads & cold feet"? ; 

Lfc "blanket still needs extra material? 
(1-1) RedNet bootroom update ....

1-1 was the easiest & most predicable scoreline .. i do not "bet"  however,  when ever in the last few days I thought about this match 1-1 seemed the likely result,,, even I saw 0-1 (Lfc scoring first, and Newcastle scoring later (only 7 mins !)  , in my head,,, 1-1 

7 league games and Lfc fan nies & "experts" will panic, a win v Mancs would put Lfc back in the frame.. not even a quarter of the season gone, this was and an acceptable result for me, (despite;   /great-expectations-is-normal-jk-redne.) 

I obviously want Lfc to win all games but i did not want Rafa to lose, his "underdogs" didn't give Lfc much room to play "pretty" Lfc had less chances than in recent games,  (and Newcastle had double he shots on target !!)  Phil scoring (again) surprisingly from disance , (as I am sure Rafa would have educated his team that Phil always tries to get the ball on his right foot for those "super shots"..) Jonjo was not quick enough to block him..

Shelvey

Jonjo however "edged" my motm vote as he took he game away from counterpart Hendo in midfield , showed maturity and in his (he's a fan of Stevie ) "number 8" shirt made me smile when I think of a Lfc fan on the echo saying "we are also not disappointed Shelvey left Lfc) when I read that ... I thought Rafa should show it to Shelvey..

Lfc cannot blame champions league fatigue , 5 days o recover & prepare! Shelvey's through ball was way better than even DeBruyne's much acclaimed passing.. Matip challenge too weak and the geordies luck helped as he ball rolled slowly past Mignolet into the Lfc net...1-1...

Blanket

Rafa..in his pre-mach press, was asked about "Klopp and Lfc defensive problems" , and Benitez amusingly commented  (*rememer his "table legs" comparison during  G& H wrangles?)
///   ... that sometimes is like having a blanket which is not big enough to cover the whole body, if you pull it over your head your feet can be cold.. :)   for me, has explained current JK tactics he has a "hot head and cold feet", the defence is left exposed when "Lfc are in full throttle" and without sufficient quality or organisation, to deal wih opposition "surprises" and some bad luck (recently)  

MoreNO was better, no obvious mistakes (I prefer Robinson or Milly) BuT, he does NOT know how to tackle, and whatever he gives going forward and has improved his performances, is NO "defender" so always Lfc play wih "3 @ the back" with him ,  Mane & Salah worked harder but neiher in form , and Salah is so "one fooed" misses vital chances, and loose control gave  Newcastle defenders time to recover and clear Lfc attacks.. 

Phil often too deep to cause damage, Studge had only one clear chance from a defensive miss-kick, poorly serviced by his team, and for me, shows that he needs regular football now to have his old "sharp killer instinct" back.. however was right that JK rested Firm. (rather jaded recently from too much football?) 

Hendo & Wijn were caught in a midfield battle , and the home side moved it forward quickly , thus, less opportunities  for "counter-pressing"  Gomez is he sort of defender , Dejan & Maip need to be more of, and was unlucky to be booked for a normal clearance, in recent games I have lost count of how many times players of various teams had raised their foot higher than him... even "Mane-high" ... !

Mignolet was mostly sound, dont know if he could have done more or been quicker off his line for Newcastle's goal, however, Pepe Reina saved a pen for Napoli in champions league last week, even as a "veteran" looks more competent (fast off his line, and near perfect disribution) than all 3 Lfc goalies combined...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAE5rnYyMeM
and
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Shanks / Rafa comparison

Rafa's Reds 08/09 team scared ALL of Europe & @ home, winning @ both the mancs , Chelski, Barca, Madrid, Milan and so on,  (would smash Klopp's current team) and 25 TOP youth internationals in OUR club, as was, were disposed of, (along wih Kenny, Rudolfo & Mcparland,) after he went from Lfc  ( forced out by yan nkers) they (Henry & co replacing G  & H, HOWEVER, without any better footballing knowledge  or understanding of our culture) 

have not replaced the qualities of disposed  Pepe (still playing & saving a pen for Napoli in champions league last week) , Masch, Torres, Alonso, Gerrard, Agger, Hyppia nor Carra..

(AW reply) 

Chris

1 October 2017 at 10:24 am  ·  Reply

Mike, nice , despite accolades, i find such can never come close to acknowledge how Shanks really “MADE” Liverpool… a global entity many modern fans are encouraged by current lfc commercials to focus on the future , i like JK however he hasnt got much of a clue about our culture.. (he even compared fergie with John Lennon!) I was a more mature supporter @ ’74 final , (i still have the match programmer and 1 quid ticket stub) remember the friendly geordies too, me going crazy when Alec scored early , then being pulled back … “the feckin ref disallowed it, lad” in my ear,, signing YNWA durin the game., and the concrete wembley stand “bouncing” . …. Shanks making he ultimate transfer from “British ” football to something else… Emlyn & Phil snuffed out “supermac” and his big mouth, Shanks selection of Tommo , a scouse kid , amazing , he stylish Peer Cormack.. Kevin, …

these flashes of mine distract from his influence on my generation, (yeah “everything” !) we would have died for him… he and Lennon the main influences of my life and especially my social awareness.. and the importance of football in society .. he was not wrong about that .. sadly perverted by “biz” & media..

he was betrayed time & again by Directors , and eventually I believe that was his reason to resign … had given too much to Lfc…

and i happened with Rafa..todays “opponent” who is the closes to Shanks in his “vision” of how a club (which was our club) should be …

Rafa, and with due respect to a legend that is Kenny, , was/is the best manager Lfc had since 1990 , complete understanding of youth development, club management through all strategic & tactical aspects , home or abroad ….Benitez had a 10 year plan disrupted by USAcorp (G&H/+ henry & co) during and after his removal and the damage has been done , probably biggest error of Lfc boardroom in over a quarter of a century to remove him, some fans underestimated his value, true Red supporters still love his commitment , on & off the field , in he Liverpool community.. whatever happens today!

in closing, I noted friday how few remembered, “fans” who chat away about rubbish on Lfc groups etc ,have their pic taken by his statue .. forgot Shanks ..he who made i all possible..

He will always be in MY heart & soul , long after the modern Lfc is not… thanks Shanks

footnote : Rafa involved in development of Phil (@ Inter ) & Jonjo (brought him to Liverpool)

http://chrismithlog.blogspot.com/2017/02/rednet-bootroom-it-ismuch-more.html